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Edit of yesterday's meme with accounted for non-voters

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Genuinely curious, because I see you using this narrative a lot. What are you planning to do after the election to end the genocide? You seem to balk at direct action and talk a lot about voting which is fine, but voting takes 5 minutes and we watched Kamala backtrack on all of her progressive policies and muzzled Walz' progressive nature. What are you going to do after the election?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Are US troops involved there? Because one candidate clearly says that Biden is not doing enough to help Israel.

Israel currently is led by a similar fascist with criminal record to trump, that once he loses his power he will go to jail. He is using attack on October 7 as an excuse to get rid of Palestine.

And we have seen that no one can really stop Israel. Do you think Biden wouldn't prefer that the conflict would be over (and Israel wouldn't be stirring new shit) and not distract from the war in Ukraine?

It's clear that Netanyahu won't stop what he is doing no matter what and actually wants trump to win as trump promises to help.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Are US troops involved there?

Yes. Biden officially sent 100 troops to Israel a few weeks ago.

I'm looking ahead, beyond the election. Don't start lecturing me about this shit, because I've heard it a million times. Biden is doing less than Reagan did towards Israel.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 days ago

100 troops? That many? Why didn't the whole Middle East surrendered already?

But seriously, this was response to Iran's attack and the soldiers are there to operate THAAD batteries to stop Iranian rockets (you know, to discourage Iran from firing at them in the first place to reduce chance of escalation).

I was asking how many US soldiers are actually taking part in the offensive in Gaza.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

As mentioned, I'm not even whole enough to walk more than a few blocks, and I live self-employed and under the poverty line. All I can do is donate when I can and speak to those close to me. I write my reps, but that's pretty in-line with representative democracy, and I get the feeling that you're looking for non-voting action outside of the norm. I've notably reddened my social circle, but that's all I can claim.

I miss being able to march. But I have neither the physical nor emotional fortitude for that anymore.

You seem to balk at direct action

I don't balk at direct action. I decry the idea that it's a replacement for voting. Direct action is important. Voting in certain elections is, likewise, important. Dedication to direct action does not and should not preclude taking one day out of the year, or less if you live in a state with good mail-in voting laws, for harm reduction, especially when that harm is at an exceptionally bad precipice point. Nor does voting preclude direct action.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

We've gone back and forth with each other in the past about voting, but I understand why it's so prominent for you now. I'm of the belief that it's the easiest and least effective method of change, so it's been frustrating to seemingly see no real plan to put on the pressure folks are telling us to wait for.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

It is the easiest and least effective, on its own. But its the least effective in large part because it is an action taken only one or two days out of the year. Each of those days are a significant junction from which massive changes are possibly. Often bad ones, which is why it's all the more important to use those one or two days.

Direct action is food and water, but voting is medicine. Medicine won't save you without direct action, but refusing medicine when ill will ensure that direct action does that much less in keeping you alive. Or ensure that the problem kills you outright before you can get your body the necessary nutrition to sustain itself.