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If you expect them to be available outside of working hours, the hours they’re available should be paid, and therefore are working hours.
There is no communication necessary for work that cannot take place during working hours. What you’re actually arguing for is free labor.
No, sometimes you just need to tell an employee something, and then have them verify they understand the information. In my opinion that does not qualify as work.
Is the something you need to tell them related to work?
And is the verification you reference something you expect them to provide as an employee?
I should hope you are able to make the connection without having your hand held further.
on the off chance they're...not...
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That's work. and all work must legally be compensated for.that could have been an email. which could get dealt with on monday.
If it is a must need info you should have told it during regular work hours.
If your boss can't figure that shit out during working hours they need to get their shit straight.
I'm not going to be on call for zero compensation because you're scatterbrained, inept or understaffed
Because everything important happens during every employees working hours, and it is inconceivable that a plan could change for any reason while you aren't clocked in.
If you want work to get done you have to be coordinated. Just text back, its not that fucking hard.
I would agree that your boss shouldn't expect you to answer at all hours of the day or even remotely quickly, but if you literally never answer anything then I have very little sympathy for you when you get fired.
If my response to you can't wait for my next normal working hour, then that means I will have to carry my work communication device with me when I leave work and I will not be able to travel anywhere that puts me away from whatever communication type that you require for longer than the duration that you are willing to wait. This type of restriction has a term for it, it is referred to as being "on-call". Employees deserve to be compensated for being on-call. If your business requires your employees to be on-call, but you don't compensate them, then I have very little sympathy for you when you get sued or fined.
I think there is a difference between being on call and being expected to text your boss sometimes. You could literally just check your phone once a day at the same time and it would be fine. Maybe they should throw you a dime for that few seconds of grueling labor, but I don't really give a shit.
We are not slaves, we have a right to be be paid for our time. You are the one that set the rules. You, people like you, all these business people and "job creators". The days of employees working an entire career at one company and retiring with a pension are dead. You and your ilk killed it. Employees are just cost centers. Constant growth and profit are all that matters. Layoffs, soft layoffs, invisible layoffs, hiring freezes, attrition, trimming the fat, split shifts, workforce reduction, voluntary separation packages, contract positions... these aren't personal, they are just business. A companies interaction with its employee is a business transaction governed by contracts, employee handbooks, and labor laws. They specify the number of days I am allowed to be sick in a given year and even limit the number of days we are allowed to be sick at one time. And after all of that you want to talk loyalty and sacrifice?
Well, maybe you should go fix those problems. You know, instead of whining that you have to look at your phone occasionally when you already spend your precious time arguing with me on Lemmy.
Wow, you are so bad at this, no wonder nobody answers your calls.
Me doing one thing does not mean that I am not doing another thing as fast as it can possibly be done. Normal working class people don't just go into standby mode when waiting for our main objective to progress.
Also, why would you assume that stopping the inept and over privileged from spreading stupidity and misinformation is not part of my mission? But most of all, maybe if you can't find your own ass with both hands, you shouldn't be in charge of other people... or projects.. or anything at all.
Once again, but slower this time... Just because someone works for you, does not make them your slave, or inferior to you. They are allowed to have a life outside of you. And if you absolutely must have someone at your neck and call for you every minute of the day, then expect to pay for it.
I'm not an employer but ok.
There shouldn't be anything that requires the employee not be informed the next working day. If it's such an emergency you can't wait then you should call your doctor not your employee.
If it doesn't qualify as work then they can refuse. Maybe they don't want to communicate with you outside the job and you have no right to force it.