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An international (English speaking) socialist Lemmy community free of the "ML" influence of instances like lemmy.ml and lemmygrad. This is a place for undogmatic shitposting and memes from a progressive, anti-capitalist and truly anti-imperialist perspective, regardless of specific ideology.

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0. Only post socialist memes

That refers to funny image macros and means that generally videos and screenshots are not allowed. Exceptions include explicitly humorous and short videos, as well as (social media) screenshots depicting a funny situation, joke, or joke picture relating to socialist movements, theory, societal issues, or political opponents. Examples would be the classic case of humorous Tumblr or Twitter posts/threads. (and no, agitprop text does not count as a meme)

1. Socialist Unity in the form of mutual respect and good faith interactions is enforced here

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Everyone knows Gazans were dead set on thrashing and killing until one of the sides was dead and gone. The vast majority of Gazans do not want peace.

Everyone except Gazans knew which side would be dead if it went too far.

The only reason the people of Gaza aren't doing this to Israel is because they literally just aren't capable. When Gazans rushed out for their killing spree, it showed very clearly where their priorities lie. Killing the enemy for no other gain was more important than absolutely every other consideration.

Look, I have almost no sympathy for the people of Gaza. The little I have is in the form of thoughts that It would be best to get kids and mothers a safe escape route out to Egypt or somewhere else. I do recognize that Israel is still going too far and should lose support, they have really decided to become something we can't possibly consider an ally and still tell ourselves we want to be an ethical alliance. But I really just don't care that Gaza was the target of their brutality. Despite the power imbalance it still feels about as awful as bombardments of Berlin. I'd be curious what you think of the German lives lost. I personally don't care. It's a mild tragedy in comparison to what the Germans largely wanted and tolerated from their leadership.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 55 minutes ago* (last edited 52 minutes ago) (1 children)

Holy fuck. I'm taken aback. I have no cogent response to your lack of human consideration for the people of Palestine other than to tell you to go fuck yourself and I hope you never have to experience something like what they're going through. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind you callous fuckwhit.

Bet you call Russians orcs too. Jesus.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 51 minutes ago* (last edited 50 minutes ago)

Bet you call Russians orcs too. Jesus.

Yes.

Again I'd like to ask what you think of the German lives lost in the bombardments of Berlin.