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I'd like to think they're all just Russian trolls but increasingly, I think some people are just selfish or dumb.
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this post was submitted on 24 Oct 2024
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"~~some~~ hundreds of thousands of you ~~may~~ will die, but that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make" is exactly what vote blue no matter who people are saying to arab americans who are uncomitted voters
Dude. Trump is already complaining that we are supporting Israel enough. You think he's magically going to change his mind and pull the plug on supporting them once he's in office? Fuckin delulu
You think Harris is going to magically change her mind when she's the one doing the current genocide? Trump lies btw. Like all the time. It's in his interest to make it seem like Biden isn't helping Israel enough because the Republican party has more fervent Zionists but he's easily been the most pro-Israel President in history.
I don't think either will drastically change. That's the point. Trump will give more support to Israel, and Harris will continue similar to other presidents and give them middling support.
You seem to be under the impression that I like Harris. So let me be perfectly clear, I do not like any of the candidates. But it's still important to put effort into electing the one that will do the least damage overall and Harris will certainly do less damage and even has the potential to do SOME good. Trump will only do damage, and more of it, and certainly more irrevocable damage. Especially when most of his groupies are all signed on to and pushing project 2025.
This isn't only about Israeli support. But even if it was Trump will give them everything they want.
I know it's not about Palestine, but that's exactly why this meme is ironic. Rather than joining with their fellow Palestinian-Americans and their allies to pressure Harris, Democrats are going the other way and demanding undying loyalty and no criticism or protest. They're basically sacrificing them for their own pet issues. It's kinda funny actually.
More will die under Trump than Harris.
Anyone who is against Israel's genocide is not voting for Trump.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/donald-trump-leads-kamala-harris-among-arab-americans-poll/ar-AA1sHwW8
What's your point?
That your statement seems disingenuous in this context because only a vote for Trump helps him win. No one's vote is owed to any candidate. If people want to vote for a third party that better represents their values (or no candidate - even though I disagree with this position), they should be allowed to do so without active or passive false blame being slung at them that they are somehow enabling the very genocide that they are against.
Not really. This is almost verbatim the trolly problem. And people who are voting 3rd party are in essence standing by and doing nothing as the trolly runs over more people than it otherwise would. You have the power to help prevent harm and you're doing effectively nothing. You share culpability with Trump voters for that.
I never said otherwise.
If people want to vote for a third party, they should do so in a system where 3rd parties are actually viable, and can be chosen without ceding power to your ideologically furthest opponents. We don't live in that system. We have to reduce harm where we can, and 3rd party isn't going to do that, at best it will just split the vote, and cede power to the guy who wants to see Gaza turned to nuclear glass.
And if Trump is elected, ALL of them will die if he gets his way and he admitted as much.
It’s too late in the game to bother educating you on this, but it’s never too late to call out your bullshit.
I will say- it’s very telling how the closer we get to the election, the more .ml accounts are showing up to “nuh-uhhhh! everthing.
You guys must have recently received your marching orders and are working that shit!
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