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I feel like in private trackers, you don't seed to help the community. You FIGHT for the ability to seed, because everyone craves upload numbers but it's a limited commodity.
When there is free leech and seeding points you don't need to be racing. with patience you can build enough buffer to download what you want. In TL the bonus points are capped though, so with autobrr you can make some little upload buffer on every new FL torrent.
The problem is this means you have to download whatever the newest freeleech torrent is ASAP and seed it as much as you can, rather than downloading content you want right away and seeding it. If there's 500 seeds and 1 leech, you aren't getting much upload buffer.
I've never actually broken 1.0 on a torrent on TL because it's impossible, there are too many seeds and nobody actually wants to download much of the crap lol. Freeleech is the only thing making decent ratios possible for plebs without seedboxes and automation.
It doesn't matter if you get 1.0 ratio on FL downloads. Anything counts towards your upload buffer. By auto downloading FLs I've made a buffer of about 2TB since I joined on Christmas.
Yeah, but you still have to be super aggressive about it, an FL torrent over an hour old is completely useless in my experience and you shouldn't download it unless you actually want the contents. Plus you still have to keep your FL torrents running for 10 days, but you get all the uploading done in the first few hours, so the rest of the time is a completely useless waste of disk space.
Personally I just reached >5.0, but I've only downloaded two torrents I actually wanted, the rest have been whatever FL bs I could get my hands on early enough to get some uploading in lol
I mean with seedboxes as low as $5 a month, seeding is abundant in my mind. It just takes a couple of clicks to set up a torrent to seed. Everyone could easily seed 2:1 if they wanted to. And then delete and free up space.
This is literally impossible, which is the point parent poster is making. Seed:leech is always 1.0, for every uploaded chunk there must be a willing downloader on the other side.
The more seeders >1.0 a torrent has, the harder it is for other people to reach 1. Rewarding obscene ratios (as TL does with literal "achievements") creates a toxic scenario where everyone is scrambling for a limited commodity in a zero-sum scenario.
If you want to play the "0.8 ratio required" game then a seeder should be forcefully removed from a healthy swarm once they reached some threshold around 1.2-1.5. If you want "high quality seeds" to stay connected, the "required" ratio should be dropped accordingly. But you cannot simultaneously have everyone "contribute evenly" with 0.8 and also award ratios of >5.0 etc.
Your "freeleech for weeks, get upload credit" "trick" just takes advantage of the 10-day seed time HnR timer. In short, it works because of their arbitrary silly rules, not because you're contributing to the total health of the torrent swarms.