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I'm asking what you think centrism is if you think somewhere like publicfreakout is right wing.
Riiiiight.
I'm not sure you can have any kind of spectrum that doesn't have a middle.
This is just being obtuse for the sake of it.
I don’t agree with neither of you but dude, you’re just being dense here. Politics is not a direction where the center is still and the two opposite sides are moving. It’s a matter of ideology and values: centrist values are moderate, try to reconcile capitalism with civil rights, a moderate economic policy where the state intervenes where it is deemed necessary and in general a centrist mediates between polar opposites (at least ideally). If you say centrism doesn’t exist you’re living in a pre-SSR world.
If anything, now everything is centrist, and what’s worse is that centrism is slowly being absorbed by right wing values (free market, family, public decency, right to defend oneself, more power to the military) whereas leftist ideals were left to rot in a basement for 30 years and now all leftists can babble about is SJW fodder.
I know you hear a lot of leftist propaganda but the whole world is moving the opposite direction. We need class struggle and we need to bring back the middle class.
I'm not sure what possible argument would work if you insist that there can be two different points that don't have a midpoint. That's primary school geometry.
In the US there are right wing and even more right wing. The Overton window moves so fast more and more to the right that it has a visible Doppler effect.
Not at all how direction works.
If you want to call "left" to whatever passes for progressive in the US (and receives proper mockery in the rest of the world for it) be my guest.
Buy clown make up in the mean time, you'll need it.
Left of what? This is the extraordinarily simple concept you're not understanding. Whatever left is it has to be left of something. What's referred to as progressivism in the US is mostly to the left of the political establishment, and media. It's center/center-left compared to the population (depending on how you define progressivism).
If you're just using your own personal desires as your calibration point, then good for you, nobody else should or does care though.
I would introduce you to the idea that there are other countries besides the US, but I see you're a lost case.
Well as someone who has never once visited the US I am shocked.
Claiming that there is nothing between two points is certainly geometry.
Also calm down.