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Meanwhile On Grad

Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!

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Tankies take a break to deny some genocide (sh.itjust.works)

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's not worth my time to continue with this thread after this, you're obviously a deeply unserious person, but I'll spend a little time sifting through the scattershot arguments and deal with them...

I never said they needed to be globally competitive. If possible, I think every nation should transition to being self-serving, renewable, and entirely self-sufficient with their resources.

Because every nation has every resource and information they could possibly need to run a modern society. A rare earth mineral mine in every country is what I always say! /s

Beyond that detail, your first paragraph is effectively: happyroadkill-america

The second is just you giving anecdotal accounts of people you absolutely know and they're certainly rich (sure).

Have you considered that your theoretical person that holds this belief...

Probably does not know the native language.
Will leave behind people they love and care about to move away.
Would be very costly to upend their life.
Would live somewhere less well off based on (see above).
Would rather attempt to influence their country to be better or more equitable (in their opinion).
Assumes they can even become a citizen to begin with.

The problems are systemic, not based on individual failings. Even if these people were 100% real, I do not care.

Most of the time they even go against their own ideals, like supporting the proxy wars of arab oil barons or hypercapitalistic Russia. For their arguments over materialism, there sure is a lack of it.

This is the most disingenuous strawman framing you could possibly concoct of someone's position.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

deeply unserious? all along? What a waste of time, I thought we were having a nice chat but if you want to resort to being deeply unserious, then sure.

I will be deeply unserious in return, don't get mad, it's deeply unserious, no serious business here. This is all very unserious, a very big unserious. no seriousness here, no sir.

Once you're ready to be deeply serious, tell me and I'll unban you and restore your belittling comments and insults, and then we'll have a nice serious discussion where we can talk about ideas. Hopefully come to conclusions and mutual understanding of one another's experiences and opinions, like serious people. Or you can carry on being deeply unserious. It's up to you.