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[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I think the other important point to add is that evo psych in popular discourse is rarely used to explain alone. Instead it seems to always lead into the naturalistic fallacy as an explanation for why the world can't or shouldn't be kinder, more humane, or less authoritarian. Add on to this that the people making these arguments are usually pretty out of touch with the actual archaeological record about their supposed environment of evolutionary adaptiveness and it's not at all surprising that whatever legitimate insights it may offer are buried under a mountain of bullshit.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

YES!!! 1000x yes!!

It's an "appeal to authority" argument that's usually used to justify a cynical and brutal, often fatalistic worldview:

  • "Mankind is doomed to destroy itself",
  • "Someone always needs to be in charge, because humans are wired to organize around strong influential figures."
  • "Humans need to always have an enemy to unite against or else they'll turn on each other."
  • Social darwinism culls "the unfit" who can't thrive in the "free market."
  • Homo-Economicus

If they're not a deeply depressed edgy teenager who had a bad church experience once, I find that usually this perspective will be espoused by someone who will use it to justify why they, or people like them, should be in charge of "the masses." (You get a Bingo if they start bringing up "wolf packs" lmao)

They just want to be able to claim they're objectively correct. "My view is just science, you can't argue with science!"

I think it does a lot of damage when people internalize the idea that we're all just some kind of hungry animals in a zero-sum gladiatorial arena.

BTW love your username+domain :). It's really refreshing hearing from other intelligent folks who see the good in what we are and what we can be, rather than try to justify the worst of humanity as a "natural constant."