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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (2 children)

built with massive debts for a lot lines, no immediate commercial viability.

The Chinese state owns the whole system, and state debt isn’t what you think it is. This is not a commercial system, so “commercial viability” is irrelevant.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

@davel @elgordino the viability is: how do we let people move around the country, what is the cheapest way.

This is cheap.

It's also cheap everywhere else.

And by cheap I mean cheaper than alternatives.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It’s cheaper than just one more lane, bro. one more lane will fix it, bro, i swear.

It’s also cheaper than flying, in terms of climate change.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

@davel Air travel is also demanding on:
* Road infrastructure for the airport, trains deliver people closer to where they want in the first place and the connect better to the rest of the PT system.
* Land use. Airports are huge.
* Airports also cost a lot, factoring them into the price of moving people around is important, frequently this is paid for the state.
* Noisy in ways that just can't be mitigated.

It really isn't a good option.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

@davel comedy mode: one more track, you wont believe how many more people can use just one more track ;)