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Elon Musk says Twitter logo to change, birds to be gradually abandoned (www.cnn.com)

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The ability to stop applications from keylogging you, secure and efficient screenshare, decent compositing, not to mention all of the cruft it's obtained over the years that stops it from obtaining all of these. And, as a whole, Xorg is completely incompatible with multi-monitor setups - no fractional scaling, and no multi-monitor scales, as well as refresh rates as you mentioned.

All we should be using nowadays at most is Xwayland. You only get a pass for bare X if:

You need accessibility tools that don't work on Wayland yet: https://github.com/flatpak/xdg-desktop-portal/issues/1046
You use some insanely old hardware that doesn't support the appropriate in-kernel and userspace APIs for Wayland to function.
You use NVIDIA, and can't feasibly use Nouveau.

Otherwise, get the fuck off of Xorg. The ecosystem has matured enough such that Wayland Just Works for basically everyone.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

All we should be using nowadays at most is Xwayland

get the fuck off of Xorg

Xwayland support has been merged into Xorg since 2014 🤷

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, I am well aware of that. When someone refers to X, or Xorg, or X11, they're usually referring to bare metal X - you know, the insanely broken thing that people still want to use for some inane reason.

So what's your point? Why does this conversation continue to go on? It's clear that Xorg is unmaintained and will not be fixed, and Xwayland is the only thing that matters. Why argue it?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

When someone refers to X, or Xorg, or X11, they're usually referring to bare metal X

Well... I don't; I refer to X as the X protocol... which is also outdated, hacked out of its mind, and still has some bizarre legacy cruft that nobody in their sane mind even uses anymore... but isn't the same dumpster fire as "bare metal X". Hope we can agree on that? 🙂