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Benjamin Netanyahu has warned Lebanese people that they could face “destruction and suffering” like the Palestinians in Gaza if they don’t “free” the country from Hezbollah.

“You have an opportunity to save Lebanon before it falls into the abyss of a long war that will lead to destruction and suffering like we see in Gaza,” the Israeli prime minister said in a video address directed to the people of Lebanon.

"I say to you, the people of Lebanon: Free your country from Hezbollah so that this war can end."

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The genocide is real. Those are words, and 100% more cynical than thoughts and prayers

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You know what else is real? The fact that average Americans — the ones who put people in office — support Israel, whether Joe Biden likes it or not.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

That is not something I would take as fact. Questionable polling at best, and it’s laughable to say it’s what the American people want when they have no say in the matter. The powers at be will not allow candidates to be critical of Israel…ie the PACs that choose which candidates are on the national ticket. I’m sure if the American people were able to vote on this issue, funding to Israel would cease immediately.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The reality is that VOTERS (so, old people, since young people don’t vote) are overwhelmingly in favor of Israel. Obviously I despise them but the solution is to change their minds, not act shocked when in a democracy the elected representative does literally what people want him to do.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You’re either trolling or very naive

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Have you ever even looked at polls? Lmao

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes. Democrats and Independents both favor conditioning arms sales to Israel and say . Republicans don't matter. There may also be questions that ask "do you support Israel" that also have a majority, but that's not the question at hand (whether to continue supporting their war effort). And even if you shift to argue that the American opinion is mixed, that's very much not overwhelmingly favoring continuing our role in the genocide.

https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/americans-split-continuing-military-aid-israel

https://globalaffairs.org/research/public-opinion-survey/americans-continue-say-us-should-stay-impartial-israeli-palestinian

To quote: "Have you ever even looked at polls? Lmao."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

These heavily qualified opinions are all entirely shared by Joe Biden. Because as I said, Joe Biden will do and say literally whatever is most popular. That’s his entire schtick.

So thanks for proving my point. Children.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

He's literally not doing what's most popular. If he was we'd be reducing and/or conditioning military aid, the position supported by a majority of the population. What are you even talking about?

Five in 10 Americans (53%) support placing restrictions on US military aid to Israel so that it cannot use that aid toward military operations against Palestinians.

Wild that people can act condescending when just patently saying the wrong thing after being shown the exact data that proves them wrong.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Your inability to make sense of polling data — again, these polls don’t even target LIKELY VOTERS — is why Trump and Netanyahu exist. Because opposition to these monsters is crippled by hysterical people who cause nothing but infighting and chaos.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So your justification for supporting genocide is that it gives people better opportunities for career advancement? Well, now I'm convinced it's a good thing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

No, I’m saying in a democracy you don’t get to do whatever you want when you’re elected. You have to do whatever EVERYONE WHO ELECTED YOU wants you to do. And young people don’t vote while old people support Israel.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

That’s true but as long as his political opponent has a more supportive stance on Israel, the Democratic Party knows that there’s a lot more room to support Israel without haemorrhaging too many voters who don’t align with that value.