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This kind of gaslighting should not be tolerated. Everyone take a moment and block that troll.
That's like saying that the burgler that bypassed your locks by smashing a window is fully justified because you didn't put cages over the glass. Reproductive rights were protected by 50 years of precident. Roe was established case law for decades and was overturned by a court that rejected how the judicial branch was working and has worked for centuries by ignoring precident, accepting a case on weak standing to challenge it, and arguing that the established case law was wrong on shakey arguments.
Don't let right-wing nuts lie to you about objective reality.
There is no lock. There is no broken window. There is no burglar, because this person was invited inside the house. The Democratic Party has been rife with "Pro-Life" candidates for decades. The Dems on the judiciary committee going back 40 years have rubber stamped Pro-Life candidates in the Judiciary Committee.
Dems will put the GOP in their fucking cabinet. The GOP isn't breaking in, its being invited in.
If you wait on Federal Dems to save you, you're going to be left extremely disappointed.
Cool story, bro (or sis, or comrade, or whatever, idk you). Was it the Democrats 40 years ago that discarded ages-old decorum, stared down stare decicis, and said "nah, that ain't for me," to then threw out established case law, casting doubt on the legitimacy of 1/3 of the co-equal branches of government? Oh, no? It wasn't? It was a group of far-right so-called "Christians" put on the SCOTUS by Republicans?
Yeah, that's certainly how I remember it happening, and, you know, objectively true, so thanks anyway.
The Republican nominees said the magic words and the Democrats on the Judiciary Committee rubber stamped every GOP nominee since Clarence Thomas. If Dems were hoodwinked time after time after time by candidates who mouthed "stare decisis" to the Senate and proceeded to piss on it as soon as the confirm vote cleared, perhaps they bare some of the blame for being so fucking gullible.
By Joe Biden's Democrats. By Dianne Feinstein's Democrats. By committee after committee that cowered when Bill Frist or Lindsey Graham whispered "the nuclear option" to a DC journalist. Every nominee since Bork has been worst than the last, and yet Dems refuse to hold up nominations on the grounds of polite decorum.
Well, fuck my man. The J6ers are at the gates. Democracy is finally on the table. We've got 6 judges who will just as soon wipe their asses with the rulebooks as read them. Can we get a 10th and 11th appointment to the courts to balance things out, President Biden? No? Oh well, I guess its game over.
It's a weird strategy to show up and explain how one team operates without rules and lies about everything, but it's the other guy that's the problem. I can see that you're one good faith fella.
These two teams set the rules for the game. When one team cheats and the other team steps in to defend them while they break the rules, the problem is two-fold.
In the case of the SCOTUS, you've got a Dem Party that refuses to investigate and prosecute flagrantly corrupt judges, refuses to seat additional judges through the Senate (a thing they have the power to do but will not employ), and will not order their bureaucracies to ignore rulings that endanger the life and property of American residents. Instead, you've got a willing accomplice to the willful neglect of women in need of emergency medicine, the persecution of LGBT children and young adults, and the execution of innocent men.
When the DOJ is not merely docile, we have an FBI engaged in illegal surveillance and detention of peaceful dissidents, a DHS that actively facilitates humanitarian crimes against lawful migrants and refugees, and a Pentagon that perpetuates war crimes abroad. All of these agencies are operating under a Democratic Administration.
And to top it all off, you've got a candidate running on the promise of appointing Republicans to her cabinet. This, while coordinating donations and campaign support with the fucking Cheneys. This goes beyond "cheating and lying". It amounts to stepping out into the stands and killing spectators as part of the event. "Well, the other team just told us who to kill, what were we supposed to do? Not kill them?! We'd have fewer fans!" is a fucked way to run your franchise.
If they won't expand the court, they could do what the House and Senate did to Johnson and that's shrink the court.
Unfortunately, the only fair way to do it would also remove Brown-Jackson.
"Five, five is a good number. Remove the four most recently added."
You'd get rid of the Trump court, but also Jackson, and it would still be 3-2 right wing court. Thomas, Alito, Roberts, Kagan, Sotomayor.
They won't do that either.
Why would you remove the most recent judges and not the most elderly judges?
Last in, First out.
Just do First In First Out instead.
There is zero reason to argue with these trolls. They are here to disrupt an election so why we they can do to achieve that, that is what they’ll do.
How can you simultaneously claim that abortion was protected only by precedent, yet the democrats did everything in their power to preserve it?
Oh you're trying so hard to build a strawman! How adorable.
Roe was established case law. Reproductive rights were settled. Blaming Democrats when the actions of Republicans baselessly dismissed it is moronic.
Okay.... so why haven't dems baselessy reinstated it?
You may wish to observe that the Republicans have a majority in the House of Representatives, meaning the Democratic Caucus lacks the votes to reinstate it.
None of these things keep democrats from stacking courts.
What a life. Just throw out nonsense statements with no evidence, don't address a single counter point, and just go on living with ignorant confidence. I see the appeal of being Republican. Facts and reality are such a drain to deal with.
Here you go, buddy.
ReDUMBlicans.
TL;DR:
Obama left 105 empty federal judgeships when he left office.
Republicans slowed down Democratic nominees during Obama’s first term.
They virtually shut the process down in Obama’s final two years.
IDK how that would possibly happen with Manchin and Sinema in there. It seems easier to pass a federal law.
The GOP gained that majority in 2023. Dems had an opportunity to enshrine Roe in 2021 as well as in 2009 under Obama. In both instances, they decided pursuing the legislation would be too unpopular and punted.
What's more, the Dems had the opportunity to shut down the ACB nomination - weeks before Biden was sworn in. Feinstein waved her through, after McConnell had successfully stonewalled the Garland nomination for over a year. Dems cave on this shit constantly. There are simply too many Pro-Life Democrats to expect they will deliver on reinstating Roe.
And, in states with Democratic majorities, they are codifying it at the state level. Sucks for the rest of us, though. I'm moving out of one of them for many reasons, but one important one is for my children.
Hope you're moving to the PNW. We need more good people here.
Lots of red states are pushing for a vote on it and passing, too. It's wild seeing "vote no on amendment 3" signs here in Missouri as if it's not just advertising for the majority of us to show up and shut these chucklefucks up. I'm hoping that's how it'll go anyway 😓
Crossing my fingers for you! I'm hoping that Harris and certain single issue referenda (like marijuana) will bring people to the polls and while they're there, they'll vote for women's rights.
Same! There's some interesting measures on our ballot that I'm making videos on to raise awareness for like rank choice voting. If you know anyone from Missouri have them check out my YouTube or TikTok! Links are in my profile:)
That's amazing! I will save this comment so that I can trace it back. I wish you (and the collective us) much success!
I saw a “vote no on question 1” sign in maryland and they claimed it was to “protect children”.
You know what protects kids? Keeping their moms alive.
They have. In the seven states that have put abortion issues on the ballot since 2022, every single one has supported abortion, including red states: Montana, Kentucky, Kansas, and Ohio.
10 states have abortion issues in their ballots this year. Abortion access is being picked up faster than "Constitutional Carry" did.
Logically, the answer would have to be that Democrats lack the power to preserve it. Which happens to be true because:
And so why weren't the courts getting stacked the moment Biden took office?
Two reasons:
Remember Diane Feinstein?
She was a crucial vote to fill court seats for biden. She also had dementia and then died. Her absence from the senate was part of what slowed filling vacancies.
Also assholes like Manchin and Sinema - may they rot in hell.
The democrats have become Such a big tent party that there’s no more room for common sense.