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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes. But I foresee a Toto Directive being penned one of these days.

Additionally, looking at how Checo cuts through the field vs how Max cuts through the field I firmly believe that Max really is the speshul sauce that sets the RB apart from the rest.

It's the best car, for sure, but it isn't 30secs per race better than the field unless Max is driving it.

I'd pay real schmeckos to see Lando, Piastri, Russel, Fernando and Lewis do runs in it to get an average baseline of it's performance.

Like let Max, Lando, Piastri, Russel, Fernando and Lewis take the ten teams cars for a "road test" type showdown on a few different types of tracks and then give their verdict on the cars.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've always thought it would be fun to give them all the same car and see who would win, just for an event or something. Now it's RB dominating, before it was Mercedes. But with the same car it would really be Verstappen VS Hamilton.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A yearly A1GP-like event would be incredible.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

A1GP was cool! Closest we have these days is race of champions

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I'd be super down for that as well.

Although I also have been wondering, how "same" the cars of teammates really are.
There are always tolerances, and no two parts are "the same", and there always is one which is slightly closer to the perfect value than the other.

I've wondered how much of a difference that could make when you add it all up over a whole racecar.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Clearly there is strategy involved too - Horner stating they focused too much on the race (at the expense of qualifying) is interesting on a track viewed to be more difficult to pass on

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Hungary in a sense is still old school - races are won based on sector 2 performance and tyre strategies. There are still overtakes thanks to DRS and the new aero design, but it's still a battle against tyre degradation.

The on-boards with telemetry were very interesting. You don't usually see the drivers slowly modulating the throttle out of corners, but everyone was doing it to extend the tyres.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is that allowed? Not really an F1 fan (Lemmy just showed this post to me) but every time I see something about F1 its how a new innovation that would make the cars faster is getting banned after outcry from all the other teams.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Within pretty strong limits, yes.

But you're right, it is fair to question if those limits imposed are actually good.
They definitely are complex enough, to allow different interpretations. Most times a team will have an Idea that maybe skirts the rules. They will believe they are within legal limits, and if the Idea is actually good and improves things for them, all the other teams will protest.
Sometimes the new Idea is then instantly clarified to be illegal.
Sometimes it is deemed legal, but the rules are changed such as it becomes illegal the next season.
and Rarely it's just legal, and everyone else copies it and has the same stuff 2-3 Months later.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's difficult when you actually adhere to the rules.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Still coping from them overspending on catering?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

… then having less wind tunnel time and still beating the field mostly on aero…