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Grown-ups now you can choose heavy genocide Trump or kind of genocide Harris. Grown-ups know you have to pick one.
Trump can be infinitely worse, but do not downplay the atrocities going on right now.
(not American)
I didn't.
This implies that either she is planning on taking a different approach than Biden (of which I haven’t seen any indication), or you don’t think the current atrocities are a genocide.
(again, I’m not American)
https://www.axios.com/2024/10/16/israel-gaza-humanitarian-aid-us-weapons
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You were wrong 9 days ago because this is not the first thing they've done to try and stop Israel. The fact that you have to lie proves my point.
They’ve done nothing to stop them, evidenced by the fact that the genocide is still ongoing. They sanctioned exactly two settlers, and delayed 1 (one) arms shipment. They’re threatening the ICC not to issue the arrest warrant for bibi. And now they have actual boots on the ground.
EDIT: spamming the putin gif doesn’t make anyone you disagree with a russian bot
Biden-Harris genocide is probably more harmful as it gets liberals to consent to it, both domestically and through more competent foreign policy maneuvers. Though even then they are pushing beyond what the NatSec should want.
Though really, I don't think I should need to say or repeat this: you should oppose genocide. Attempting to lesser evil it is disgusting and, of course, very poor logic.
What about Ukraine? Trump will hand over everyone in that country while speeding up climate change with "drill baby drill". As the world becomes less livable, more wars and genocide will fallow.
First, under no circumstances should you support genocide. Stop trying to excuse genocide. Actually fight against it. You know that question, "what would you have done against the Holocaust?" Right now it would be, "fret about which Hitler to support and make excuses about how Jewish people would be killed anyways".
Anyways.
The Biden-Harris administration's policies on Ukraine are exacting maximum pain on the people of Ukraine, using them as a tool to hurt Russia. At every step of the way, only maximum pressure on Russia has been their consideration. So either accept that the most likely outcome of Trump there would be a deescalation or acknowledge that the motivation here is bloodlust.
Ukraine already lost. Its future has been mortgaged to western financial interests and it will not be regaining its lost territories. The people therr have been shelled by Kyiv's far right forces (the ones with Nazi tattoos) for a decade, they aren't sympathetic to Kyiv even if some territory were, under wild circumstances, returned. It was never plausible for Ukraine to win militarily. All of liberals' talk about Ukraine is fantasy children's tales that have nothing to do with reality.
Dragging out Ukraine is just forcing more death and disposession on the Ukrainian people.
The Biden-Harris administration has set record levels of US fossil fuel production and is an exporter of oil and natural gas. Harris has publicly promised to support fracking, a tool that, when novel, Obama used as an international weapon to crash oil prices and hit targets of US empire - Venezuela, Russia, Iran.
Both parties are against the continued survival of humanity re: climate change, one of them just pretends otherwise, throwing money at a domestic renewables industry that largely just routes it to finance and tech rather than produxtive capacity. Oh, and continuing Trump's trade war on China, which is currently threatening to end large swaths of the US solar industry as installations of new solar panels are waaaaay backed up.
So get off your butt and start fighting the good fight! Cheerleading genocidal frackers definitely isn't that.
Taking a little lesser choice isn't cheering. Never complain about anyone else's logic ever again.
Pushing a vote for a genocider is cheerleading. Your role is on the sidelines saying, "go team!" The feigned reluctance doesn't change the role.
Speaking of "ever again", have you ever heard the phrase, "never again"?
https://www.axios.com/2024/10/16/israel-gaza-humanitarian-aid-us-weapons
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"Hitler promises to improve concentration camp conditions".
What point do you think you are making?
Thanks for Godwin-ing the threat to prove my point
Some things are actually comparable to Nazis, you know. Like genocide and concentration camps.
I'll take this to mean you have no response.
Adults realize that one is lesser and you can choose lesser or abdicate your choice. Buck up and grow up kiddo
You should be against genocide.
https://www.axios.com/2024/10/16/israel-gaza-humanitarian-aid-us-weapons
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The genocide is happening under Democratic control through the Biden/Harris administration and the biggest crackdowns on protests are happening in blue states like California and New York possibly even more so than red states like Texas. There is no "kind of" about Harris's stance on genocide.
https://www.axios.com/2024/10/16/israel-gaza-humanitarian-aid-us-weapons
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