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[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

I can't wrap my head around how people can ignore all those red flags. 2-3 days ago I just got a text from a random number about some parking fine. Not just that, but it said that that day was the last day I could get a 50% DISCOUNT on the fine. A fucking DISCOUNT! What's next? I can use my Nectar card? Do I get a loyalty card with a stamp on it? But it's not even the fact that I wasn't contacted by mail, or there was no other contact given; I don't even have a fucking car. Or a driving license in this country.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I got a fine for not getting my bus ticket stamped in Florence, Italy. Apparently if you paid it the same day it was one price and that price doubled after a week, month, etc.

Didn't matter the machine failed when I stamped it because it was out of ink. I even tried to stamp it in front of the officer. He said I could appeal it in person in court. They know tourists aren't going to appear in court to appeal. I felt scammed but after calming myself down and paying the fine the officer apologized and told me in a few words he hated his job.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

They also can't force a tourist to pay a fine. And it's not a criminal matter, so they'll never be able to deny you visa on these grounds.

When the same happened to me I laughed into their faces, they wrote down my passport data and address and kept sending me snail mail with threats for years till I moved. I'm still waiting for the day they'll force me to pay the 30€ or whatever that was.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Well, that's rather reassuring.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

I was about to comment, that here in Italy, many fines have a price if you pay in few days and give up your right to fight back, and another price if you pay before the fine is due and keep your right to seek help from a judge.

Anyway, nobody told you, that if you want to see a judge that was at least 40$ ten years ago. Just to see him once, no warranty given. And even if you can get your fine cancelled, that 40$ were gone. So at the end you pay and also pay soon so to pay less. I also hate it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Discounts on speeding tickets are a thing in my country. Maybe they were from somewhere else and assumed it was a thing there too? 😂

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

I wouldn't be surprised, considering the accent of scammers calling me with phone plans and stuff.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Parking tickets too here. Though they don't call it a discount, it's basically the price and if you wait too long the price goes up.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I can’t wrap my head around how people can ignore all those red flags

They use threats and urgency to pressure people into paying faster that they realise it's a scam.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

I literally, unknowingly, watched this unfold with my dad recently. He got a text along the lines of "final notice of unpaid toll from [local toll road entity], pay by end of day to avoid late payment fees" with a link.

He (on the side, while we were all doing something else) went in, entered his drivers license info, date of birth, and credit card number to "pay" the toll.

About 30 second after setting his phone down he just goes "shit, that was a scam, wasn't it" and describes the text to us.

A little bit too much trust, and a false deadline can go a long way.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

It's an old trick but if it's the last moment you learn about a fine first, then chances are someone isn't playing fair, regardless.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah that's normal in Britain for council and government fines (as opposed to often unenforceable private parking charges). The shitty part is that if you try to dispute it they don't put the timer on hold so you essentially play double or nothing on how strong you think your case is. Lose and you have to pay the full thing. Not bitter at all.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Wait, is it normal to have a discount or is it normal to only have the notification in a text message on your phone and nowhere else? Because the latter is rather worrying.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Ha ha, my random text was really vague about what council had issued the bogus parking ticket. By contrast when I strayed into a bus lane one time I got a letter from my council, complete with a very clear photo of me driving my car in said bus lane. And yes, I got a discount for paying right away.