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[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I got banned from the world news community on lemmy.world because I respectfully and politely disagreed with a moderator. https://lemmy.world/comment/12426224

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

That's about right for flyingsquid. Seems like a nice bloke but has repeatedly shown he doesn't have the impartiality required to be a moderator.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't think he is nice, I think he acts like a mall cop on an ego trip. I had to block him

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

He’s nice when you agree and most his opinions are decent so you tend to agree a lot. But he tends to start acting weird/hostile when you have a disagreement.

I really appreciate his contributions to lemmy while thinking maybe he isn’t the best person to moderate a political community.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

We have different opinions on what nice is. Personally I feel if someone's only nice when you agree with them. That's not nice

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Semi-related, but how do you feel about my moderation? Being impartial is sometimes quite difficult

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I'll chime in here

I think you do a decent job. If there is one thing this community has shown its that we could do worse. Keep up the good work

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You didn't politely disagree. He asked a direct question to which you earlier said to know the answer to.

What you kept repeating was not an answer to said question, and then you started playing stupid games against someone who's shown time again to have no patience for them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Imagine you are an expert in software engineering, and imagine I asked you, “How do you build an app?” How would you directly answer that question?

Moreover, if it was obvious to you that the person wasn’t really interested in how to build apps, but they actually doubt it’s possible to build apps at all and they just want to waste your time arguing with you would never get your app approved on the App Store or something like that, how much detail would you be willing to go into about how to build apps? Would you take them through the whole process, start to finish? Would you point them towards resources they could use to learn how to build an app?

I answered the question quite extensively, with explanations and caveats. It should be very clear that while he (and you) may disagree with me, I am not making these arguments in bad faith, I’m not trolling, and I’m not being particularly rude or breaking any rules.

I’m definitely not playing any “games”, I’m just explaining my position the best way I can, but I’m also not trying to waste my time arguing with people who have zero genuine interest in taking what I say seriously.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What's the exact text of that respectful and polite deleted message?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It was a message I accidentally submitted before I had finished writing, then deleted so that I could continue to write it, but by the time I finished it, I was already banned. It was something along the lines of “I don’t really think you’re arguing in good faith here, because as you said, you “knew” before even starting this conversation that I wouldn’t have any practical ideas”, or something along those lines. If there’s any way to un-delete it I’d be happy to do that, if you know how I can? Or somehow recover the original text?

Edit: Never mind, figured out how to undelete it. Original comment is restored. I accidentally submitted just that fragment instead of a longer message I had intended on replying with.