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[–] [email protected] 42 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

In a bizarre repeat of previous denials, the Russian Ministry of Defense again claimed that no direct hits occurred, attributing all damage to fallen Ukrainian drone debris.

All the other issues here aside, I think that you guys are long overdue to find a fresh cover-up strategy. I mean, the "our soldiers were smoking and it exploded" thing was better than this. At least with smoking, there's the potential to stop the problem in the future, but if air defenses are having the "debris" destroy the targets that they're aiming at, then the air defenses intrinsically can't be very effective even when they work.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Ukrainian drones are apparently made out of antimatter or something.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 weeks ago

So, I was thinking more about the fact that the air defenses should be destroying an incoming weapon before it's over the target, but yeah, on penetrative power, for this particular attack, it's even harder for Russia to make the case.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-targets-western-russian-regions-with-drones-russian-officials-says-2024-09-18/

Dmitry Bulgakov, then a deputy defence minister, told RIA in 2018 that the facility could defend weapons from missiles and even a small nuclear attack. Bulgakov was arrested earlier this year on corruption charges, which he denies.

"It (the concrete facilities) ensures their reliable and safe storage, protects them from air and missile strikes and even from the damaging factors of a nuclear explosion," RIA quoted Bulgakov as saying at the time.

Like, if the Ministry of Defense is moving from "it can stand up to a nuke" to "falling Ukrainian drone debris blew the thing up", that's one heck of a shift.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago

Speak out against it and now we know you are a dissident!