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[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

My favorite was when the behavior of a USB drive in /etc/fstab went from "hmm it's not plugged in at boot, I'll let the user know" to "not plugged in? Abort! Abort! We can't boot!"

This change over previous init behavior was especially fun on headless machines...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

You could just use systemd mounts like a normal person. Fstab is for critical partitions

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Fstab is for critical partitions

Hush everyone, don't tell this guy about noauto, it'll burst his bubble

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I've never seen it used in the wild

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Jesus, I mount everything manually from noauto, except root.

If nfs isn't available, I don't want my system to hang, typing mount takes 2 seconds.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Wouldn't your NFS not mount in that case? Wouldn't you want it to retry periodically? Also, what happens to your service when NFS isn't available?

Sounds like systemd mounts are better in this case (unless the device is non critical)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

I mount it manually when I'm sure everything is up.

The issue is, I use this workstation to bring up the rest of my network and servers if they're down, can't have a hard dependency on nfs if it's job is to bring up nfs.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

This happened to me when Debian switched from SysV to systemd. I am not the only person who experienced this (e.g., https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=147478 ).

This is not to say the systemd behavior is wrong, but it essentially changed the behavior of fstab. Whether this is Debian's fault, Arch's fault (per the above link), systemd's fault, or my fault is a fair question. But this committed that most egregious of sins per our Lord and Savior Torvalds


it broke my userspace.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 hours ago

That was a really long time ago. (2015) I don't understand why you are holding a grudge for almost 10 years. Most people have never used a system without systemd.