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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Oh good thing you told us where that info was then. Its not like the numbers of victims are still unknown or unaccounted for. Its also great that you provided all that evidence of "guilt" for everyone injured.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

en. Its not like the numbers of victims are still unknown or unaccounted for.

How many are those? Why would there be any unaccounted victims at all?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

It's hundreds of explosions, some of which were in cars (presumably causing car accidents) and crowded areas. It was terrifying. Victims may not want to come forward since it connects them with a group of people being targeted with fucking bombs, something they personally witnessed. They don't want to be next. Or they don't want people to think their deceased loved one was a terrorist.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

It's hundreds of explosions, some of which were in cars (presumably causing car accidents) and crowded areas.

A person injured in a crowded area would be rapidly attended to and accounted for, especially by now, two days later.

If there’s an unaccounted victim, it’s somebody off by themselves with a Hezbollah pager and thus not a civilian. So this argument actually works against you.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Have you ever worked in emergency medicine or been in an accident? Someone could have been hit with shrapnel and hid it due to sheer adrenaline. People have been shot in mass shootings and had limbs bit off by sharks and not really "noticed." It's entirely possible to keep going/dissociate from an injury if you think that the bombing event will continue, if you're still in danger, if you think acknowledging your wound will put you in danger. Or if you think people will assume your innocent kid that got killed was a terrorist, you might want to lie about how they died so you can have a nice funeral and people won't remember them like that or accuse your family of being terrorists.

There's also shrapnel from car accidents as well as shrapnel from the bombs.

I'm not actually arguing, I was answering your question about why some injuries may have gone unreported by people who weren't Hezbollah. However, I would say that any groups of innocent casualties seems to show that the attacks were not very specific as originally criticized.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

Have you ever worked in emergency medicine or been in an accident? Someone could have been hit with shrapnel and hid it due to sheer adrenaline. People have been shot in mass shootings and had limbs bit off by sharks and not really "noticed." It's entirely possible to keep going/dissociate from an injury if you think that the bombing event will continue, if you're still in danger, if you think acknowledging your wound will put you in danger. Or if you think people will assume your innocent kid that got killed was a terrorist, you might want to lie about how they died so you can have a nice funeral and people won't remember them like that or accuse your family of being terrorists.

Ok, can we talk about things that aren’t made up, now? Israel didn’t send sharks to Lebanon.