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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (18 children)

I don't think train can compete with a long distance means of transportation that is

1- equally or less time consuming.

2- works very similarly across countries.

3- only needs infrastructure at the start and end stops instead of for the whole journey.

What we need is to figure out a way to use less polluting, carbon neutral or non-polluting fuel for airplanes, and less of it with more efficient designs.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (7 children)

To your last point, believe it or not, but planes are getting significantly more efficient. Huge wide-bodies like the 747 are retiring in part because airlines don't want to lug around 4 engines, when the 787 can do the same trip with 2.

The a320 neo has a much better engine than previous generations, and same thing with the 737 max (crashing problems aside).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (6 children)

crashing problems aside

Ok but that caveat is doing a lot of work there

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In a comment about efficiency? No, it doesn't.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

it's relevant. the worldwide 737-MAX fleet had very low carbon footprint for like a year or a bit more!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right, so the 737-MAX are very fuel efficient. No argument there. But saying “the parenthetical about ignoring the crashing problems is doing a lot of work in this comment about fuel efficiency” is just nonsense.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I mean, the entire fleet was very efficient while it was grounded

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

All the 3 digit models with a “7” are Boeing. It’s worth noting that #Boeing is an #ALEC member that supports the republican party in the US & lobbies to eliminate & neuter the #EPA as well as fight every environmental protection possible. So regardless of GHG footprint¹, #boycottBoeing.

  1. I say GHG instead of CO₂ because airlines also have non-CO₂ GHG emissions. There was a scandal recently where #Google stopped showing the GHG emissions on their ticketing platform & swapped in CO₂ emissions to downplay the damage.
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