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Question for those knowledgeable about alternative web protocols (gopher, gemini, etc): Would it be possible to create a tool that translates http sites to those formats, on demand? (lemmy.ml)

submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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We all know how awful most modern websites are in terms of bloat, javascript and tracking. Not only that, but designing and maintaining web-browsers has become such a gigantic undertaking (almost the size of an operating system), that only a few companies have the resources to do it (google and mozilla, and mozilla might not hold on for much longer).

These alternative protocols offer a minimal set of features, and are trying to get back to what the web should've been: static content with images, text, and links, with local applications filling the void for anything more complicated than that.

Lets say I wanted a privacy-friendly way to view a page on a news site. I could:

Copy the URL of the page
Open some tool, (or website, anything), paste that url.
It converts the content in the url to the necessary privacy-friendly alternative format, and I can view it with my gopher/gemini browser (or even maybe a markdown viewer).

I know there are a few html -> markdown converters that can do the last step.

Does anyone know if this would work?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You are conflating content with delivery protocol. The websites would look the same regardless of protocol.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Gemini is not just a delivery protocol. It also specifies a content format.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think Gemini or Gopher includes both. They don't read html / javascript, so they definitely wouldn't look the same.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

How do you think they would look? To get the news web page in your example, you are still going to have to have to render the page by running the client-side scripts required by modern websites and render some type of markup language for layout. It's not like web pages are secretly sitting in pure text on a server somewhere...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

You can install a gemini / gopher browser to see what sites look like with them.