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Most people understand that killing for culinary pleasure is extremely fucked up. It's a self evident conclusion.
In our age using animal products is done because it is either pleasurable or convient. It takes active effort to deny the sheer horror of the reality of that. Anything that threatens to undermine the denial is thus hostile, and so needs to be attacked.
you know this, it's why you're here attempting to salve your conscience with sympathy.
i’d argue that that’s simplistic
people all have a line; vegans included… we kill yeast to make bread, and people are fine with that. there’s a line between yeast and humans, and we all draw it somewhere… which is to say nothing about the difference between vegetarian and vegan
having a conversation about morals is fine; passing judgement on someone for their alternative views on where the line is is what most people don’t like
my mistake, wiping down a surface with 70% ethanol is equivalent to strangling a puppy. Barkon tomorrow morning it is!
i never said they were equivalent. i said there was a line; to say that they’re equivalent is disingenuous and to say that killing a chicken is the same as killing a human is equally so - not advocating either way, but they are different things
I'm gonna eat a dolphin and you can't criticise me <3
I'm hungry for an orca!
Both are sentient beings who feel pain and we must prevent that from occurring.
Yeast is a single celled fungus and not an animal. The line is at animals.
It is absolutely ok to pass judgement on people for doing something cruel, torturous, environmentally damaging and unnecessary.
I pass judgement on Israel for carrying out a terrorist attack.
Get the out of here with this no one can pass judgement and what about the plants nonsense.
swatting a mosquito then? the argument remains valid
Not really, you aren't systematically torturing mosquitos when swatting them to protect yourself. Vegans are against large scale insect control.
You have the right to defend yourself.
I am against that yes, there are more humane ways to protect yourself from insects including mosquito repellant and I think theres like a super high pitched noise they don't like
If the line is at animals we commit genocide of small multicellular animals in order to get clean water
You are being purposefully fucking obtuse and ridiculous to make a shitty point.