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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (2 children)

First one. I've lived in condos and I will do anything to always live in a house now. It's the literal reason we sold a condo to buy a house.

Life has been much better ever since.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

As stated lower down in the thread, there are more options than just suburban sprawl and tight apartment buildings.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Let me guess, the walls seemed "paper thin"? That is very easily fixed by basic sound proofing and insulating shared walls. Or by using brick or concrete. I lived in an apartment with 3 other guys that had brick walls and I could scarcely hear anyone. It was amazing.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (2 children)

If the place you are in is already built poorly, then the it is neither "very easily" or cheaply fixed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

But the conversation is implicitly about how we should be building going forward.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

There are tons of poorly built detached houses as well, that are also not easily or cheaply fixed, that is orthogonal to the debate between house or apartment.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Except you don't need to soundproof your detached house. You can run and jump and yell all you want without bothering anyone.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

If you live in a high quality house with large space between houses, maybe. Sound is very transmittable by air, if you are in the garden or open a windows there goes the sound insulation. There are tons of houses with 'special cardboard' as walls and not really that much distance laterally between the houses, so all the loud sounds will be heard. Again, if you build with bad quality, anything will be bad.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Try convincing land-leeches to do anything but the bare minimum cheapest option and you'll be out on the street in no time.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

sweden has a lot of "commie blocks" built around the 60's, which are generally basically solid concrete, and straight up the only time i hear my neighbours is if they drop heavy stuff directly onto the floor or if we both have a window open.

These buildings were made specifically to be cheap housing, and yet they seem to be some of the better housing available in the world, fucking wild. I maintain that our commie block areas are some of the best places to live within the country, you get hilariously cheap rent, car-light surroundings, generally very decent public transport connections, and it's not unusual for them to effectively be the situation depicted in OP's image, some example areas being Bergsjön, Fisksätra, and Jonsered, the latter of which is wonderful because it's effectively a small town consisting solely of apartment buildings.