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What in the f did I come across (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 month ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I was just Googling for some tips on an argumentative child, but if all that's coming up are Christian dogma blogs with this kinda crap...maybe I should just let it be lmao

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's easy to get hung up on words, eh.

We do "submit", daily, to a higher power or thing beyond our control.

It's pouring with rain, I need to be three blocks away for a coffee catchup, I don't have an umbrella and I have to walk. I don't have control over time, my coffee date or the weather, so I'm going to suffer. I can't argue with the weather or time, and while I can negotiate with my coffee date, this impacts them.

Somewhere in that I have to accept I'm either going to be late or going to be wet. I can worry about it, beat myself up about not bringing an umbrella or checking the forecast - or I can submit to the factors beyond my control and accept I'm going to be late or be wet.

That is one end of the "give your free will over" stick. The other end of it is a shorthand to saying the above, which is that God or Allah or fate willed it that way therefore there's no point getting hung up upon being wet or being late. It was always going to happen, chill, someone else has this under control.

There is a peace to that thought. Nothing I do matters, it's all pre ordained, therefore I don't need to care. When I read the linked quote I think - oh, you're worried about the kid thinking they can change everything just by fighting back. It doesn't happen kid, best you accept the things you can't control, and get on with a happier life.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Was not expecting to read anything like that in this thread. Very well said. Thanks!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Submission is always social. You cannot submit to "elements" unless you personalise them, ie submitting to THE rain.

Naturalising hierarchy doesn't lead to pretty results.