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GOP lawmakers and analysts virtually unanimous that Trump was second best to Harris in first presidential debate

Donald Trump’s campaign was in damage control mode on Wednesday amid widespread dismay among supporters over a presidential debate performance that saw Kamala Harris, his Democratic opponent, repeatedly goad him into going wildly off-message and missing apparent opportunities to tackle her on policy.

Even with Trump insisting to have won the debate “by a lot”, Republicans were virtually unanimous that Trump had come off second best in a series of exchanges that saw the vice-president deliberately bait him on his weak points while he responded with visible anger.

The Republican nominee – who took the unusual step afterwards of visiting the media spin room, a venue normally frequented only by candidates’ surrogates – was non-committal on Wednesday to the Harris campaign’s proposal for a second debate. Despite widespread opinion to the contrary, Trump suggested she needed it because she had lost. “I’d be less inclined to because we had a great night. We won the debate,” he told Fox & Friends.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It's just the_donald now.

The whole party got taken over by crazies, and all the normal people are realising and getting out.

Guess it's hard to argue about child starvation being a matter of personal responsibility when the person next to you is wearing a KKK hood with a swastika on it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

and all the normal people are realising and getting out.

No. Unfortunately not. They are just shutting up about it because they're embarrassed.

Though that was one of the first steps the country took to move past GWB (though unfortunately they moved to the right)... People becoming embarrassed to admit they voted for and/or supported him.

I can speak from personal experience as the first presidential election I voted in was 2004 and at that time I had just begun my deconversion process from Evangelical Christianity, and I voted for Bush.

I still cringe when I think about it. And it was within 4 years that I had become a progressive atheist. So maybe we're not entirely screwed (though these people don't seem to have the ability to think rationally that came to me naturally).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

I still pine the hornets nest, both becuse it's funny to see them get more and more angry, and on the very far off chance that it convices those of them left