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This is the place for discussing the potential collapse of modern civilization and the environment.

Collapse, in this context, refers to the significant loss of an established level or complexity towards a much simpler state. It can occur differently within many areas, orderly or chaotically, and be willing or unwilling. It does not necessarily imply human extinction or a singular, global event. Although, the longer the duration, the more it resembles a ‘decline’ instead of collapse.

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The Looming Shift: Oil Markets Signal a Structural Phase-Change | Art Berman (www.artberman.com)

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What I don't understand in our current situation is the lying. We're not attempting to transition to green energy because we have a choice, because it's better for the environment, or any of this. We're doing it because there aren't too many other options now that easily accessible fossil fuel is being burned up. What would be the harm, at this point, of just fessing up? It's most disconcerting that Western governments have gotten addicted to lying like this, even when they don't have to.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I am not at all sure that a large fraction of decision-makers understand the whole gravity of the situation. Many of them really believe that this is a leisurely, voluntary transition. While it is nether leisurely, nor voluntary, nor a transition.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

You may be right. I keep assuming that Western politicians are smart people who are playing dumb for the public so that they can keep their grifts going. But they may not be playing in many cases. That might explain the rather sluggish response to what looks like a very serious crisis unfolding over the next 1-3 decades.