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I just moved into a student dorm for a semester abroad, and beforehand I emailed them asking whether they had ethernet ports to plug my router into (I use it to connect all my devices, and for WiVRn VR streaming). They confirmed that I could, but now that I'm here the wifi login portal is asking me to accept these terms from the ISP, which forbid plugging in a router. There's another clause that forbids "Disruptive Devices" entirely, defined as:

“Disruptive Device” means any device that prevents or interferes with our provision of the 4Wireless to other customers (such as a wireless access point such as wireless routers) or any other device used by you in breach of the Acceptable Use Policy;

So what are my options? I don't think I can use this service without accepting the terms, but also I was told by the student dorm support that I could bring a router, which contradicts this.

EDIT: some additional context:

  • dorm provider is a company separate from my uni (they have an agreement but that's it)
  • ISP (ask4) is totally separate from dorm provider, and have installed a mesh network that requires an account. On account creation, there are many upsells including one for connecting more than one device. The "free" plan only allows me to sign in on a single device, and I can upgrade to two devices for 15 pounds.
  • ethernet requires login too
  • VR streaming requires a high performance wifi 6 network, which is why I bought this router (Archer C6 from tp-link)
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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (12 children)

Happily the 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz bands are unlicensed and open for public use.

Nothing our OP said indicated they wanted to run WiFi, but even if they did, they could choose a less noisy channel.

Nothing in the click through agreement talked about radios, or bands.

Any body could turn their phone into a cellular hotspot, or have a starlink hotspot, and that is nobody elses business. This is no different.

Letting the network dictate what you can run in your own home is MaBell levels of authoritarianism, but more to the point, its unenforceable ( You can always take a page out of how to hotspot book - Router runs a always on vpn and the lan side only goes out over the VPN, so DPI just seeds the router, and the TTL is as expected)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (11 children)

But this is a dorm. A shared environment with close proximity.

If everyone had their own Wi-Fi transmitting at normal power there would be too much interference that even channel hopping wouldn’t fix it.

Not to say that there can’t be some middle ground but the Wild West attitude isn’t kosher either.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

OP already mentioned that the student WiFi is being run entirely by a third party ISP and they have more expensive paid plans for more than one device.

Guaranteed this isn't about running an optimal network (Though I'm sure if pressed about it they'll start spouting excuses similar to yours) and all about company greed and constant profit growth.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Probably. But I didn’t want them dealing with being cut off. They can do what they want but since it’s a dorm you can be sure they’ve had these conversations before

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