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So I'm building a new computer before the end of the year and lemmy is obviously pushing me towards Linux.

I am not computer savvy, I have a family member that will help me set up my PC, but I do not want to be calling/messaging them every day when I want to open a program.

Basically my question comes down to: can I operate a Linux PC these days without needing to troubleshoot or type code.

I use my computer about once a week for a few hours I would say, so any time spent troubleshooting is time wasted.

Thanks!

EDIT: since a lot of people are asking what programs I typically use, I'll just list my most used programs.

Word, Excel, ect(I'm fine with alternatives)

Spotify

Gimp (would have been a make or break, so I'm glad it's supported)

Brave browser (browser is a browser)

Steam

Discord

I would say that while I could figure out how the kernels work, I'm at a point with computers these days where I don't have the time. My priorities fall with a seamless daily experience. If I have the time to figure something out I can, but ideally my day to day usage being unbotherd is what I'm after.

A lot of the comments so far have been helpful! I'm definitely going to give Linux a fair shot with my new build, probably start with Mint.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Everyone is saying yes.

They are wrong.

You will absolutely have to troubleshoot in order to figure out how to do what you want to do.

Linux is different than windows or macos and you’re gonna have to gain an understanding (however dumbed down you might describe it) of those differences in order to use the computer.

If you can get over that hump of understanding then I think you’ll be fine.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I've got to agree with this. I love Linux and have run it on my servers for years. That said, I've got Mint on my laptop and tried to print an image over wifi at a friend's place and could not for the life of me get it to print properly.

For the most part things do just work, but there are a lot more "obscure" scenarios that are handled correctly in windows but not Linux.

I also find that when things go wrong on Linux, they are harder to fix. I've had several times I've had to deal with circular dependency hell to get something to install properly. I did eventually get those problems resolved, but it was often a single person having a tangential problem that hinted me to how to solve it.

Edit: I think if your usage patterns are straight forward enough, it is by far and away the better choice. If you do the same stuff all the time, it'll pretty much never break, which is not something I could say about windows. So for OP, it sounds like it would be a good fit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

They are wrong.

The sad truth. Enough said. Linux is still not there, as much as we'd like to pretend it is. And it's especially not there for dumb users.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Dumb user here. I completely disagree with this.

I was using Ubuntu for a few years, now I'm on Fedora. I don't really know how to do anything. For my needs it's just very easy.

Maybe my needs just aren't sophisticated enough for me to encounter all those problems I'm supposed to be having. But I've been using it for years and my experience is that it really just works.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

While there's a little bit of getting acclimated to slightly different programs for the same tasks, I kind of imagine sophisticated needs primarily comes down to hardware. A company making some sort of computer hardware doohickey might design and test and provide support for something with Windows/Mac in mind, and maybe for other operating systems they're not cooperative with documenting support, under the mindset that it would reveal trade secrets or decrease shareholder value in some other way. Linux support then comes from other means like reverse engineering. This could mean that it will take time before all the kinks are ironed out, or if the product was short-lived the linux community might not care enough to have someone volunteer to keep up with support. Common, time-tested hardware will have good support. Plugging in some old printer that was discontinued shortly after launch will be more of a crapshoot.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah. I've double checked that my last few laptops worked well with Linux before buying them. But I don't buy very flashy technology, so it was never really any question.

My printer is from Brother, and it's just plug and play. At work it's all web print and has been since I started working for pay, really.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm just speculating on reasons behind why people might feel it's still not user-friendly. It was a pretty easy transition for me too, and that was years ago.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Yeah, I think you're right, and I think that's exactly why it's a blind spot for me.

On several occasions I've also lent an old laptop to friends when theirs broke, and all of them ended up using Linux for months no questions asked. They later went back to Windows because of the Word grammar check, but other than that it just worked for them.

But of course, if you can't get your drivers to work it'll be a completely different experience.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Another dumb user here Been using Arch for a year now, things just works without much tinkering...... mostly

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

If you're ok Arch I guess it at least signals a willingness to learn! I would never dare to go there haha.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I consider myself a reasonably tech literate user and tried to set up dual boot on my pc using a whole separate ssd just for Linux to be safe. Installing it went fine but GRUB wouldn't let me boot into windows, somehow the instalation nuked my windows boot partition and no amount of repairing would work, I had to completely reinstall Windows and now I'm seriously worried of trying Linux again.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

That sucks. I’ve done that a lot of times by either not understanding what I was doing or fat fingering some decision.

If you do decide to try again, tag me and I’ll set up a vm environment similar to yours and walk you through any confusing steps.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago

So you are saying that dumbs can't read? Because hey, that is all it takes to troubleshoot a problem on linux.

Thus, even your grandmother can "do google" nowadays.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Dude, your wrong. Not what OP was asking about.

Desktop light usage only. DFQOH and don't come back.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

DFQOH

I can't work out what this an acronym for. Please help!