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[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No that is not a safe assumption. They are not a hive mind.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If what you're saying is true then there would have been protests of this magnitude the moment the news started coming out about what the IDF is doing.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sorry... you're saying it is true that Israel is a hive mind and there is 100% agreement on the genocide in Palestine or else just as many people would have protested at the beginning?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm saying a significant portion of the Israelis would have been protesting from the beginning if they cared about the Palestinians.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Okay, but no one said that a significant portion of Israelis were against it. This is what you said:

So once they have the hostages it’s a safe assumption that they will stop protrsting and demanding a ceasefire.

That is only true if every single person protesting feels that way. And that would only be true if they were a hive mind.

Some Israelis have been protesting since the beginning of the war. Yes, they are not huge in number, but they exist. Were you even aware of that?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I have no doubt in my mind that there exists some Israelis that are kind and compassionate and are completely willing to coexist with the Palestinians. But those people will always be in the minority. We're talking about a country whose whole existence is based on the displacement and eradication of the native population. The genocide of the Palestinians started long before Oct 7th. The only thing that has changed is how quickly it's happening.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Then, again, it is not a safe assumption that protesting will stop.

All saying things like that does is discourage internal opposition when it should be encouraged.

What do you think it would feel like if you spent a year doing everything to protest your country committing genocide and everyone just decided you didn't exist?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

When describing the actions of a country, the minority who oppose those actions are not relevant. At the end of the day hostages or no hostages the Israeli nation will continue it's eradication of Palestinians as well as executing journalists and aid workers to help silence their actions. That is a fact that is based on plenty of past events.

I really do appreciate it when people speak up against the wrong actions of their nation, especially when they are in the minority. Based on your comments it sounds like you might be one of them, and if that's the case it says a lot about your character. I'm just sorry your voice and the voice of others isn't enough in this case.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Of course they're relevant! They need to be encouraged! Saying it isn't enough just makes them stop protesting.

A minority protested the Vietnam War and kept doing it until minds started to change.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

The fact that a lot of Americans are now saying "Huh maybe we shouldn't have invaded Vietnam." Is a small comfort to the innocents slaughtered, the families torn apart, the lands destroyed, the children deformed from chemicals like agent orange, etc. Yes, the minority became a majority, but have you ever heard of the saying "too little, too late"?

Maybe I should have said "not immediately relevant". People like the original commenter and myself are simply remarking that the majority of the protestors don't care about Palestinians. At worst, they are for it, and at best they just look the other way. The portion who are vocally against it are important, but again, they are a minority. That's the comment on Israel, that the majirity of the country simply don't care for the Palestinians. And this time, unlike in Vietnam, when it becomes too late, there will be no more Palestinians.