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Here on Lemmy I've been accused of torturing and raping animals as I'm unashamedly an omnivore. I'm a hunter as well.

I worry about animal suffering enough that we've bought a small farm and hope to raise all our own meat. I've actually worked on factory farms and know firsthand the suffering of animals under that system.

However, there are fanatical vegans on Lemmy that do a fantastic job of driving away those of us sympathetic to vegan ethics and morality.

Hey don't get me wrong, there's a lot of people that need to touch grass, there's some areas that I have ignorant opinions about. But the best way to fix that is to have constructive mature conversations with real people.

Ps. Carnivore diet is silly and leaves you with less energy than 4 well rounded meals a day, even if it is consistent. Smaller complete meals throughout the day can give you more consistently high energy than ketosis ever will.

You don't see them in the wild because they're terminally online babies who can only exist in an internet bubble, and likely don't represent anything but a tiny fraction of vocal, obtuse jerkoffs compared to the population of vegans.

I really don't think it's hate, in the classic sense. I think most of it is sort of a hamarotic response that's made possible by the fact that these forums show up in everybody's feed, and given that vegans typically have negative views on the eating practices of the rest of the world, can be seen referring to those people as they do in private. As you seem to be insinuating, it feels-bad-man to have your lifestyle casually attacked, and nearly always elicits retaliation because humans.

I feel like a lot of it is a matter of terminology. For instance, using the word "omnivore" instead of "carnist", or "Bovine Matchmaker", instead of "Animal Rapist".

The BEHAVIOR of a very small subset of vegans unfortunately causes a small but ridiculously vocal subset of non-vegans to tar all vegans with the same brush.

Since volume equals truth for a not insignificant number of people in the Internet, far too many people don't stop to separate behavior choices from professed beliefs and that's how we get where we are now, I unfortunately.

The world would be a better place if people stopped automatically associating and assuming causation and instead treated bad behavior as just that.

...carnist...

Like the words, "woke" and, "terf" the word, "carnist" identifies the non-ironic user as an ideological extremist. It isn't vegans who get a lot of hate, it is vegan extremists. I love my vegan friends and bend over backwards to accommodate them. People who use the word, "carnist" can choke on a horse dick.

The /c/vegan mods in turn banned the Admin from the community because it was obvious there was no objective basis to these removals. The admin in turn got themselves unbanned and banned the mods.

What else did they expect?