this post was submitted on 15 Jun 2023
151 points (97.5% liked)

Lemmy.World Announcements

29155 readers
367 users here now

This Community is intended for posts about the Lemmy.world server by the admins.

Follow us for server news ๐Ÿ˜

Outages ๐Ÿ”ฅ

https://status.lemmy.world

For support with issues at Lemmy.world, go to the Lemmy.world Support community.

Support e-mail

Any support requests are best sent to [email protected] e-mail.

Report contact

Donations ๐Ÿ’—

If you would like to make a donation to support the cost of running this platform, please do so at the following donation URLs.

If you can, please use / switch to Ko-Fi, it has the lowest fees for us

Ko-Fi (Donate)

Bunq (Donate)

Open Collective backers and sponsors

Patreon

Join the team

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
151
Why lemmy.world should not defederate from beehaw.org. (lemmy.world)
submitted 2 years ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
202 comments fedilink hide all child comments
 

What defederating would mean:

  • We won't see beehaw.org posts/comments on other instances.

Pros:

  • There is less confusion, you can't respond to a beehaw.org user, thinking they will be able to see your response when in reality they cannot.

Cons:

  • We won't be able to see any beehaw.org comments/posts on other instances, so we will miss out on some comment threads and posts. It could be good to be able to see them and interact with the other users there even though beehaw.org users won't see any of our content.

Summary

Overall, I think it is better not to defederate, but simply unsubscribe from all of their communities (and as we no longer get posts from their instance, with time these will cease to appear on our 'front page').

beehaw.org users already can't see our posts/comments anywhere so it's not like defederating would change their experience in any way, so it wouldn't really be retaliation and would just limit the content available to lemmy.world users.

What do you think?

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Now im sitting here wondering if I offended anyone over there lol. It's hard to imagine, but since I've seen no bad actors myself, I'm starting to think that it's possible I did, unknowingly, with zero intent to do so, and they just have a really strict thing going on. I doubt it's the case, or I hope not at least.

[โ€“] [email protected] 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It isn't the case.

The first problem was actual trolls using were using lemmy.world's open and automated registration (beehaw makes you write why you want to join and manually approves registrations based on that) to troll Beehaw.

The second problem was that the moderation tools aren't mature enough yet to deal with problem one with anything between manually banning every troll (which will immediately come back by creating another lemmy.world account) and total defederation from the instances most of those trolls are coming from.

Because Beehaw's mission statement is to be a safe space, it was decided to go with the defederation option.

However, the defederation isn't planned to be permanent. Improvements in mod tools and/or maturing of communities are said to be reasons to refederate again.

Edit: spelling

[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago

Thanks for the info. I can see the logic on their part.

[โ€“] [email protected] 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No it wasn't you. There were a couple of accounts that went in and spammed a whole bunch of bigoted posts.

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

Ahh whew. Lol. Ya that's messed up. ๐Ÿ˜•

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Doubtful you offended anyone. I think beehaw was seeing serious things like child porn and anti-LGBT posts, and traced them back to lemmy.world or the other one.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

OK thanks for reassuring me, I know people are pretty sensitive anymore, and I'm out of the loop ftmp on PC culture, and while I'm extremely progressive in every facet of my life, I still worry...but I think that's just a me problem tbh.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's I feel after every message I send online ever :)

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yea I got in the habit of ignoring my inbox on reddit due to anxiety.

I am making an effort to be mindful, and honest, and I've been checking my inbox!

Now I just have anxiety about me saying "too much" as far as personal experiences, and emotions etc.

Either way I figure if I'm honest, and people hate, f em.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Yeah, exactly, it's on them, if they hate