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[–] [email protected] 70 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I hear you and essentially don't disagree. But I feel like this might lean a tad toward gaslighting.

  • Plenty of people are fine communicators when it comes to genuine collaborative work but still find the "game" of job applications very difficult or impossible.
  • Being left alone with a customer is not a thing at all for many roles.
  • Embracing diversity in abilities and doing so transparently is a thing that can be valuable for both companies and humanity. Presuming everyone can do all the things is, IMO/IME, damaging. It leads to cutting out people who have something valuable to offer. But also leads to not recognising when people are properly bad at something despite the fact that they really shouldn't be given their seniority and role.

In the end, a job application/interview is not like the job at all (whether necessarily or not). That there are people in the world who would be disproportionately good at the job but bad the application seems to me an empirical fact given the diversity of humanity. And recognising this seems important and valuable in general but especially for those trying to understand their relationship to the system.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago

Yes I agree, you make some really valuable points here that I don’t disagree with. There’s a bit of an art to this and it is certainly not a realistic expectation that someone should be universally capable. Somewhere in that gray space between universally capable and walking hr incident is where we all fall.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Well said.

I can mask pretty easy dealing with customers because for the most part the interaction is predefined.

Trying to deal with the doublespeak and lies and unspoken requirements of situations like interviews is hard/impossible.

Because its all nebulous.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

I think it’s also nebulously counter- or peri- factual in that it’s looking for signals whose value is often that you know to give that signal. Meanwhile the qualities relatively unique to NDs can be hard or impossible to signal.