Fuck Cars
This community exists as a sister community/copycat community to the r/fuckcars subreddit.
This community exists for the following reasons:
- to raise awareness around the dangers, inefficiencies and injustice that can come from car dependence.
- to allow a place to discuss and promote more healthy transport methods and ways of living.
You can find the Matrix chat room for this community here.
Rules
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Be nice to each other. Being aggressive or inflammatory towards other users will get you banned. Name calling or obvious trolling falls under that. Hate cars, hate the system, but not people. While some drivers definitely deserve some hate, most of them didn't choose car-centric life out of free will.
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No bigotry or hate. Racism, transphobia, misogyny, ableism, homophobia, chauvinism, fat-shaming, body-shaming, stigmatization of people experiencing homeless or substance users, etc. are not tolerated. Don't use slurs. You can laugh at someone's fragile masculinity without associating it with their body. The correlation between car-culture and body weight is not an excuse for fat-shaming.
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Stay on-topic. Submissions should be on-topic to the externalities of car culture in urban development and communities globally. Posting about alternatives to cars and car culture is fine. Don't post literal car fucking.
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No traffic violence. Do not post depictions of traffic violence. NSFW or NSFL posts are not allowed. Gawking at crashes is not allowed. Be respectful to people who are a victim of traffic violence or otherwise traumatized by it. News articles about crashes and statistics about traffic violence are allowed. Glorifying traffic violence will get you banned.
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No reposts. Before sharing, check if your post isn't a repost. Reposts that add something new are fine. Reposts that are sharing content from somewhere else are fine too.
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No misinformation. Masks and vaccines save lives during a pandemic, climate change is real and anthropogenic - and denial of these and other established facts will get you banned. False or highly speculative titles will get your post deleted.
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No harassment. Posts that (may) cause harassment, dogpiling or brigading, intentionally or not, will be removed. Please do not post screenshots containing uncensored usernames. Actual harassment, dogpiling or brigading is a bannable offence.
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i dont know why we build such extravagant stations... or who convinced who to spend bank... or how treasury didnt hack the project to bits for being $10b over budget.... but absolutely zero complaints from me.
if you are going to coax the car brained out of their precious cars, public transport needs to be at least nice.
The space will reduce congestion (and not being squashed into a sweaty crowd in a narrow corridor is a quality of its own), and space overhead will reduce the risk of airborne viruses spreading. Also, for those prone to claustrophobia, it’s an accessibility issue.
Yes, it could have been done cheaper and smaller, if one wanted to reinforce the late-20th-century ideology that public transport is a bare-bones soup-kitchen service for those too poor to drive, in which case the money saved could be spent on cutting petrol taxes. Though thankfully we have moved on from there as a society.
It’s good to build nice stations, but hyperstylized stations like this will look weird and dated in 30-40 years.
As for the cost? Don’t be so sure that a station built this way necessarily cost too much more than some dull drum station design. 99% of the cost of underground metro stations is in digging out the thing.
Not just this, other stations on line are really fancy, lots of sandstone, huge open spaces, extravagant artworks.. it's really impressive for a city that's usually pretty tacky.
Ya I think most of the budget issues are tunneling related.
Yeah, but if they survive another few decades after that without being torn down / remodeled, they graduate to historic and become cool again.
The key is to not let the the public get a hold of them in that interim period when everybody thinks they suck (looking at you, brutalism).
Personally, I'm a fan of the style of the 1970s-1980s era metro stations in my city and (unlike the transit authority) don't think they need to be renovated.
Maybe, maybe not. The TWA terminal at JFK - and exemplar or mid-60s modernism - is an eyesore.
And Brutalism, to many, was always an eyesore.
What? Why? I've never been there in person, but I'm looking at pictures of it and I like it.
(I will admit it doesn't look very ADA-compliant, though.)
The Futurist one designed by Eero Saarinen? That has certainly survived the test of time.