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Housing Bubble 2: Return of the Ugly

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 3 months ago (3 children)

How do you live in Spain for two years for less than $40k?

[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

According to Google you can stay in a hostel for about $350/2 weeks, which works about to about $10k a year. You'd probably be too broke to eat well, and have nothing left for activities.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That… kinda sounds like how a lot of people on minimum wage live right now.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, but they don't get hip replacements.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

In Europe? They do

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

With some more googling you can get an apartment for like 500-700€/month in madrid and if we say 700€ per month for living(should afford a relatively decent lifestyle in spain(apparently minimum wage there is ~1200€/month) so the ~30k€ after the flights and surgery seems reasonable to live for 2 years there.

Internet sources put the cost of living in spain to around 1000-1800€/month for one person

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Wow, I'm surprised their minimum is about the same as in the US ($1,256.66/month). I guess it's not as bad as here if you can find rent that low.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yeah in many european countries while the minimum wage can be on par or lower than in the US but most of the time the cost of living is actually also low enough for it to be an actually liveable wage

Living in finland i could (for now until our new government makes "improvements") live semi-comfortably working only 30h/week on minimum wage*

*finland has no national minimum wage but unions negotiate baseline contracts by field regularly(the contracts often include yearly raises to counteract inflation and also raises depending on number of years worked)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What kind of apartments are these? One bedrooms, studios? A single bedroom in a shared apartment?

(Can you tell I've been burned by renting descriptions before?)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Most are 20-35m2 one bedrooms or studios

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Less than 34k even in this case as you have to subtract the cost of the hip replacement there

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

sounds like 13k left over for tapas to me.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

25k, cause they got a second one after being trampled.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

It's a meme from like 2014 so that's why.

The theory behind it us probably okay today even if the numbers are a bit stale.