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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No, there is a third option: you freeze the API for the extensions. That way, nothing breaks. And if an app uses private APIs (or public APIs that are not meant for extensions' use), then and only then you treat it as unsupported.

And yes, the constant breaking is a big, big problem. I use 6 extensions to make the desktop the way I want it to. In every release, I get at least 4 of them breaking for several weeks each time. The last time, the dock extension I used broke with the new Gnome version, but when it got disabled, the "favorite" icons on its dock did not reflect on the Gnome's default dockbar. All that stuff, are unacceptable for a proper usage in 2024, especially for people coming from Windows that expect stability (no matter what people say, Windows IS stable). I use Linux since 1999, but it's that kind of stuff that i can't stand. I want stability. The days when I was hacking on Gentoo in 2003, are long gone. I'm now in my 50s and i don't have time for that shit.

So, yeah, the third option.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I already mentioned in my comment why the "just have it as an API" point wouldn't really work unless extensions became severely hampered in terms of what you can do with them.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That's more acceptable than to have them break every 6 months.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

No it isn't.

And practically, they don't break every 6 months. Almost all extensions are patched weeks before the new version is even released.

E: so people actively want extensions to be practically useless and barely be able to change anything? You are lying. If they implemented that all we'd here is "hur dur Gnome wants to lock the system down"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

You actually want extensions to be useless. What's the point of them if they can hardly do anything?

You're fundamentally not understanding how extensions work. They cannot be even nearly as useful as they are now if they have to go through a standardised API. No docks, no window management, etc.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

You can always provide them with enough standardized APIs that don't break, to make them useful. The situation that's right now is unacceptable.