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holy hell. when i'm behind the wheel, the vehicle does not move before everyone is strapped in.
In my country the driver is liable for passengers not wearing their seatbelt. The fine is around €60 per passenger. Most people just pay this back to the driver, but if somebody decides not to, the driver can't do anything about that.
In my country, the driver is fined either way, and the passenger is also fined if they have a license (and thus should know better). Seems to work well enough
Oof. The double dip.
Put on your fuckin' seat belt and you won't get double dipped
It looks more like corruption and unnecessary punishments.
But why even draw the line there? Why not multiply the fines for each person without a seatbelt? 3 People without a seatbelt when the normal fine is €50? Sure lets triple that, and then give each of those 3 people a €150 fine. You know what? Let's multiply it by every person that has already been fined before.
Stupid police states and their delusional "keeping you safe by taking away your money and drivers license". What an absolute dystopian joke.
I am the last person to defend cops, and you can easily confirm that by going through my posting history. But seatbelts? Shut the fuck up and put on your fucking seatbelt.
I’m talking about fining the others as well.
Fine the driver for driving and fine the passenger for not putting on a seatbelt.
Exactly. Both the driver and the passenger (particularly if the passenger also has a license) should know better; both are at fault
Being fined for not wearing a seatbelt isn't a police state lmfao
Gtfo with that libertarian shit
I'm talking about fining the others as well.
It's just like charging someone with being an accomplice to a crime IMO
Not wearing a seatbelt is a traffic violation and not a crime.
Being pedantic doesn't refute my comparison, that's how comparisons work
It's a wrong comparison because you're implying a traffic violation is a criminal offense, but it's not. A traffic violation is a civil infraction. You can't put them under the same umbrella without making it sound dystopian.
Other than just not drive. Which is a very valid choice.
If your country has decent public transit ofcourse.
Even then. Dude who refuses can either buckle up, or walk. You don't buckle, we all don't get there. See how you get treating your "friends" like that.
Yup. That's my policy as well. If the buckle comes off, I'll pull over immediately and they either walk or put the belt on. That's non-negotiable in my car, and the only excuse is if I'm rushing you to the ER and can't get an ambulance for some reason, and I'm happy to pay the ticket in that case (and would probably refuse to pull over to lights and sirens as well).
in my country the passenger is responsible for their own seatbelt if they are over 15. for passengers under 15 it's their parent. if the parent is not present, only then it's the driver.
I honestly don't know who's liable in my country because it's a situation I will not accept to happen. If I'm driving, everyone is buckled or the car doesn't move. I don't do it because of the law, I do it because I refuse to have that guilt on my conscience if there is an accident.