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Genuine question.

There are tons of niche subs on Reddit that aren't on Lemmy or don't have enough people posting. Lemmy could benefit from bots that automatically post Reddit content. Why is this not a thing?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (5 children)

This leaves me going to Reddi for 90% of the content I enjoy. It's also the main reason why most people still use Reddit and not Lemmy. I don't see why crossposting would be a problem. Crossposting is being done anyways. Reposting too. Where is the difference?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

This is the conundrum for users of Reddit or X. There’s so much content in the mega-sites that ya’ll feel it’s worth supporting some of the worst people who own the worst companies.

“But I can’t find this entertainment elsewhere!” only goes so far when engagement means helping line the pockets of our abusers.

A meme of a person in torn business suit woth children around a campfire, an apocalypse in the background. the man is saying "Yes, the planet got desteoyed. But for a beautiful moment in time we enjoyed niche communities on fascist platforms."

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I'm not supporting anyone. I use whatever platform I like. I happen to not like Reddit so I wish to use an alternative. Unfortunately it's very hard to find an alternative. It would be so easy for Lemmy to become that alternative if there was a couple bots filling in the gaps until there is enough users posting of their own.

Why are you here? Just to make a point? Or aren't you also here for entertainment?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

I’m not supporting anyone I use whatever platform I like

Newsflash: using a platform increases engagement.

What you do is, indeed, up to you. But don’t pretend continuing to use Reddit or birdsite or whatever doesn’t benefit them and proliferate the exact thing you are seeking an alternative for.

You ask if I’m here for entertainment? Yep. Because I don’t value entertainment over supporting someone like Spez and Google AI.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Speaking for myself, but I think many other users would agree.

I'm here for the same reasons I would be on Reddit. However, I refuse visiting the latter because of what happened (company, community and also my account which lasted 2 days before an inappropriate ban - for no postings, but subscribing to the wrong subreddits).

I ignore reddit's network effect, in the hope that Lemmy does catch up a little. I hope there will be more active users in here at some point. And by now it doesn't look that bad.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We need to build communities here, but that takes time. What I have personally seen is that many niche communities that are on Reddit just fail with Lemmy. (I suspect that most of that is because of the lack of algorithmic boosting.)

I am not saying cross posting from Reddit is a bad thing, btw. It's my personal preference to read actual user content where I can interact with OP. It's highly likely that "fake" content just doesn't pull my dopamine triggers the same way, s'all.

Content is here, but it's generated at a much slower pace. Honestly, that is much more healthy for me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Niche communities fail because 99% of users are not posters and there are too few posters and users on Lemmy in general. You need content for people to move to Lemmy. They will never move to a dead Lemmy community (unless they are ideologically motivated). It will never happen in a hundred years.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yep. It takes a ton of work and time to build a community that will attract more people who generate content.

With every shit move that Reddit pulls, it pushes more people to Lemmy. While I have zero intentions of being as active on Lemmy as I was on Reddit, I have still racked up a couple thousand comments or so over the last year. Even that interaction generates content, but it's still only a tiny contribution.

TBH, I just shifted what kind of content I consumed. That did come at the price of doing without some types for the time being. However, the interaction with other users is generally much better here. Many people stay here on Lemmy because of that and honestly, I feel that is a much better experience.

What I am saying is that Lemmy is getting bigger, but it will probably take another five or so years to get the momentum Reddit had ten years ago. It'll happen because it's just a matter of time before Reddit is purely investor driven and all value is completely extracted. (It's just like how Facebook is mostly for old people now.)

[–] MagicShel 7 points 2 months ago

There's no discussion or interaction on the bot posts. And if you subscribe to them they tend to overwhelm your feed quickly. And your Lemmy experience becomes akin to someone just sharing a bunch of article links. That's the opposite reason I used Reddit or come here.

Lastly questions being crossposted are really dumb. Imagine AskReddit or AITA where your comments aren't read by anyone, much less the person posing the actual question.

Cross posts with Reddit do exist and they are completely pointless.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

The cross posting was annoying because there was a lot of it and there was no engagement. I'd prefer a few submissions with actual engagement than a ton of ghost town submissions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

How do you know I'm not on Reddit for 90% of the time?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Are you trying to lecture me on what I'm doing? I know very well myself what I'm doing. I'm here for the 5 communities there are and on Reddit for the rest.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Which ones are those 5?