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Better allocation of spectrum is not just for social media. That's like saying nbn was not needed as what we had before was fast enough for email.
While, we should not reduce coverage just to increase band with, we should not dismiss the imoirtnace of band with and the limited available spectrum.
Certainly in less populous areas where spectrum band with is not a problem, perhaps we could keep 3g coverage.
I don't think anyone's really suggesting we keep 3g in the metro areas. Almost the entirety of the greater Melbourne area has 4g, with a fair chunk having 5g, and I think most major cities in the country have almost complete 4g coverage.
But in the country, there's so many places I've been through, even in the last few months, where I've only had 3g/H+, that I also don't foresee them rolling out 4g to any time soon, let alone the any time this decade. 3g can travel further than 4g, and a lot further than 5g, which means it's all well and good that they've converted all of their 3g towers to also have 4g dishes, but unless they actually build new 4g towers, it's still a net downgrade.
The article points out that consumer phones aren't an issue. Its things like lifts with a 3g fallback for emergencies, with non4g capabikitybthat is the issue.
That's the issue. They havnt planned for anything except consumer devices. Android is now recommending 2g be disabled for security, also, so less devices will try to connect to older network infrastructure over time.
I dont see how the telco vsnt see what devices are connecting and where, given their Sims are linked tons customer when they ping a tower. Surely they can identify the devices if they wanted. It might be there are just too many.
@hitmyspot @Baku
I have a 4G phone. #Optus has been telling me for months it will no longer work when they switch 3G off.
They won’t tell me why though.
it aint LTE
@Taleya
How isn’t it?
Ask your manufacturer.
Basically: if your phone is "4g" but you get told it's gonna get cut off when they tank the 3g network, then that most likely means the phone doesn't support Voice Over Long Term Evolution (volte) ...... it uses 3g for calls.
@Taleya do you mean like for people in the country where all the calls drop to 3G, and in the city dead zones?
Different thing. That's shitty infrastructure
@Taleya Yeah, that’s what I’ve learned. Shitty infrastructure and no intention to improve it.
@Taleya
The Apple Store told me the telcos would be unlikely to upgrade 4g and would probably redeploy the 3G resources to 5G.
My phone does support VoLTE but the Optus infrastructure is crap. It used to drop to 3G calls but no longer. Now it just drops out completely.
I guess it doesn’t matter now because the telcos have realised half of rural Australia would be left with no service and that would be very bad.
I wouldn't listen to an apple store as to what telcos are doing.
3G hasn't closed down yet so your phone should still drop to 3G
@Taleya yeah it should. I have no idea why it stopped.
No VoLTE, probably. A bunch of early 4G phones drop back to 3G to make voice calls.