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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Again- that is the name of the league. That is not my fault.

It's also not my fault that the women's league of the PGA is the LPGA and the men's league is the PGA.

And by your logic, every single person, male or female, who calls the men's league of the NBA "the NBA" is a sexist.

Incidentally, this includes Brittney Griner.

We earn about 250 times less than NBA players and have a hard cap on our salaries. In the WNBA that year I made around $220,000. Overseas, I earned a million plus. That pay gap is why I was in Russia in the first place.

― Brittney Griner, Coming Home

Wow, Brittney Griner really hates women, doesn't she?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Sure, that is a sexist use of the term even when women use it. This is Feminism 101. Eg "Just Pearly Things" espouses anti-feminist rhetoric despite being a woman herself.

Again, the greater criticism is systemic sexism in sports including the Olympics and NBA. If you are opposed to this (obviously you aren't), then you would emphasize gender equity in terminology regarding the NBA.

Whether others do it too, fails to disprove my criticism because that IS my point - pervasive sexism in sports. Including with you as an individual.

Your ego isn't relevant here. Like who cares about if yet another random person on a forum is a boring misogynist who cant understand even basic Feminist theory? That's like all of you. That's expected. My point is to be someone who disrupts that. That you are part of the status quo is fine and expected. Keep holding onto calling it the NBA and pretending you care about women.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You will certainly cause a lot of "disruption" by berating a stranger for calling the NBA the NBA in a random thread on Lemmy. The revolution has begun and you've already won!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That doesn't erase your misogyny.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Or Brittney Griner's misogyny. Not only did she do the exact same thing I did, she published it in a book.

Does anyone hate women more than Brittney Griner?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I would consider her more a victim

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

She did exactly the same thing I did, except she published it in a book. By your own logic, she's a misogynist.

I can't help your logic.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Are you a woman?

She's a victim because she's a women. You're a perpetrator because you're a man. Within the patriarchal system.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Why does that matter?

Women are not being misogynistic when they call the men's team "The NBA" but men are? How does that even work?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Because of the patriarchy. That's why Feminism exists. When a woman within a patriarchy uses misogynistic terms, she's a victim. When a man does it, he's a perpetrator. That's also why women were legally forgiven for reactive violence but men were punished for using the same methods and it was not considered reactive.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francine_Hughes

That was in the 80s. Spousal rape was legal in many states then. How is this news to you? How uneducated are you?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sorry... because spousal rape was legal in the 1980s in many states, Brittney Griner is a victim when she calls the men's team "The NBA" in her book?

You are making absolutely no sense.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Read the part about victim/perpetrator and patriarchy again. I know you can connect these 3 dots, buddy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No, I really can't. I have no idea what any of that has to do with her calling the name of the men's team by the actual name of the men's team.

You must think she's pretty stupid.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Well, then we're done here if you can't understand me and I can't make my meaning any simpler.

You've already stated you don't understand my message, so stop suggesting what I think. You don't know, you've already said.

No, I don't think she's stupid. That's a "you" thing.

Do you like being abusive to women? Why else would you make up a strawman like that?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sorry, you think she's oppressed when she calls the men's team by its actual name because marital rape was legal before she was born. You're just implying she's stupid by not knowing what name to call the men's team. My mistake.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I don't appreciate your violence and aggression towards women, including myself.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What violence? What aggression? As far as I can tell, the only aggressive person here has been the one calling me names.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Fine. Please quote my violence.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I didn't think so.

That would be because you lied and there was no violence in anything I said.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You can easily prove I'm gaslighting by quoting whatever I said that was violent.

You won't, because it was a lie.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I've already declined discussing further with you. Can you respect that basic boundary?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You're free to stop responding any time you like.

You're also free to keep lying.

It's a pretty transparent lie though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Okay, I accept that that is your pov 👍

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I thought you weren't going to talk to me anymore. I guess that was another lie.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Ah, I see. This is one of these "I must have the last word" things. How childish. Go for it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

No, it's not. It's letting my claims about your behavior be proven right by your own behavior. Even when asking for peace, for resolution, etc. Thank you for showing perfectly how misogynistic and cruel towards women you are. It wrapped the conversation in a neat little bow. Hope women treat you the way you deserve.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Btw with every additional aggressive comment on your part, you are looking more and more like an abusive man towards women. Like reading the entire comment chain between us shows how vitriolic you are towards women. So yeah, this is just proving my point all around. The most neutral responses are met with controlling and disrespectful and abusive replies. So keep going, whatever. It's proving my point with each reply.

https://verbalabuse.com/