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Child rapist Steven van de Velde weeps in first interview since Olympics outrage (www.mirror.co.uk)

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Van de Velde was booed and jeered while competing at the Games. Dutch Olympic officials went to lengths to protect him from the press during the event.

He has now opened up to Dutch publication NOS about his experience, admitting that while he anticipated backlash, the intensity of it took him by surprise. "I definitely had a moment of breaking down, both before the tournament and during it. But I thought 'I'm not going to give others the power to bully me away or get me away'.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So lock them up forever, or kill them?

What do you do when innocent people end up getting convicted?

Why do we need people in society who need "raping adults is a bad thing" explained to them? Or "killing kids is a bad thing"? Or "killing adults is a bad thing"? Or "drinking and driving is a bad thing"? Or "robbery is a bad thing"?

[–] [email protected] -5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So lock them up forever, or kill them?

I already covered this in my post. If we could determine guilt with 100% accuracy kill them. We can't so settle for locking them up forever. If they're found to be innocent later they can be released and compensated for their time. For raping adults and killing kids the same criteria as raping kids should be applied.

Or “killing adults is a bad thing”? Or “drinking and driving is a bad thing”? Or “robbery is a bad thing”?

These are all very different from rape or harming children and there can be other factors to consider regarding motive that would have to be taken into account when doing the sentencing. For instance in the Gary Plauché case. He murdered the man who kidnapped and molested his son. If that's his threshold for murder, it's unlikely he would re-offend (and he didn't for the rest of his life).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So we don't need rapists (incl. of adults) or child murderers in society because they can't be rehabilitated. But people who murder adults can serve their time and be welcomed back into society...am I following what you're saying?

Are we counting it as the age of majority? Murder a 15/17 year old, imprisoned for life, murder a 16/18 year old, regular sentence?

Rape an adult, life imprisonment, murder an adult, regular sentence?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago

So we don’t need rapists (incl. of adults) or child murderers in society because they can’t be rehabilitated. But people who murder adults can serve their time and be welcomed back into society…am I following what you’re saying?

Apparently not. I said you have to look at the context of the murder to determine how to handle them appropriately. I even gave you an example of one where with mitigating circumstances. If it's unlikely the murderer can be rehabilitated lock them up forever too. As for what's considered a child I don't have a good answer, I suppose again, it would have to be contextual.