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Debian is a snail and its shell (lemmy.world)

submitted 3 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 months ago (4 children)

The thing about arch, is that if you have a basic understanding of the terminal and computers, the arch wiki can get from that level to a real expert.

So if you ask me, anyone with a basic understanding of the terminal, and a goal to improve, should go with arch.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Can you define a basic understanding of the terminal?

Your basic and my basic could be wildly different.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

Know how to use it, understand the basic file system structure, know basic commands (ls, which, cat, mkdir, chmod)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Having completed "Hacknet", the hit 2015 hacker simulator video game.

(Only half joking)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I played 2 hours of that game. I wondered how close it was to reality. Do those programs that you call in game have real life counterparts?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Mostly yes, but they're in general oversimplified (for obvious reasons)

But it's more about offensive cyber security than necessarily the Linux part. The Linux part is just file system navigation and not much more, the rest is the "hacking" part, and that's what I'm talking about

Disclaimer: I did not complete it, but I got pretty far, and I worked in the cyber security area.

I would however say it's not a good place if you want to learn as that's not really the game's focus. There are better resources out there like overthewire and linuxjourney for that

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This was my experience just setting it up as dualboot and not doing super much with it. Sure I failed installing it a few times but I came out with more understanding of file systems, and in the end the wiki told me everything I needed to know.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Oh I feel that, the wiki is a god send. Even for none arch related problems at times.

[–] deuleb_biezelbob 6 points 3 months ago

Arch + manpages + wiki is all you need

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Except, if I want that experience again I can just go back to Slackware.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I installed Slackware from 24 floppies I downloaded from a Volkerdings personal server, because I didn't have a CD ROM. I installed using documentation printed on a dot matrix printer that was versions out of date.. It took a day to compile a kernel. I've had to manually patch drivers (3c509 baaabyyy).

I dreamed about a future where I never had to do that again. Arch pisses me off.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Ah the old vortex boomerang. That takes me back.
I admit I did sometimes enjoy a good kernel panic with the Aeeeiiiiiiiii scream in the text. When I was expecting it.