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‘We are damned fools’: scientist who sounded climate alarm in 80s warns of worse to come (www.theguardian.com)

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James Hansen, who testified to Congress on global heating in 1988, says world is approaching a ‘new climate frontier’

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The “personal responsibility” re: climate change bullshit is toxic and plays straight into the capitalist narrative.

I totally agree, but people also need to be careful when they're trying to place blame in general. My main question is: how could it have possibly been any different? Anger and blame are pointless and unhelpful. Unless it's like the oil company situation where they knew and then actively deceived. Those fuckers should be beaten to death in front of their families (this is totally a joke, of course, or is it? idk).

Much of this comes down to human nature and one thing leading to the next like dominoes. The US is setup as a representative democracy & humans can't see beyond the tip of their noses -> people vote for today and ignore the future -> politicians don't risk their jobs over something their voters don't care about -> climate change kills a shitload of people, eliminates snowmelt, and scorches bread baskets -> mass migrations, war, famine, chaos. The most important questions is: what will we do with today to shape the future?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The time you took to explain your position paid off. I totally get your perspective, and appreciate you persisting.

I don't think we disagree on anything. Except I don't joke about beating oil barons to death. The prospect is the only motivation I need to get up in the morning. So that, but unironically.

(Oh, and my deleted comment was a duplicate of the previous comment)