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It bothers me that voters aren't going to find support for Israel to be a disqualifying issue.
A lot of discussion in some replies to this, but what I want to know is what you want people to actually do?
Do you think people should vote this upcoming election? If so, who do you think they should vote for?
What do think would happen if people reading this thread (and no one else, let's not pretend we have any sort of real influence here) followed your advice? Would it actually make the world a better place?
I know full well I'm shouting into the void. My side has less than 1% of the vote every election. Nothing I say matters beyond the enjoyment of discussion.
The conservatives won and fascism is what we're getting for it.
I just want people who call themselves liberal to take a moment and actually think about what Democrats do once they're voted into power.
who the fuck are you voting for? Nosferatu?
I am a Green Party voter, so Jill Stein.
ah, yeah classic green party shenanigans unfortunately. I have beef with the green party for this exact reason, but at least you're voting.
We have beef with Democrats too. They fight harder to keep us off the ballot than they do to get themselves elected.
based, we should unite, greens and dems together would change literally nothing, but not having the greens party exist would arguably be more productive :)
The only thing the greens have ever done is fuck over germany's power grid. (this might be a slight bit of hyperbole, but still)
Greens have a done lots of a great things at the local level.
We can't break into the national picture because Democrats and Republicans are corrupt, unfortunately.
honestly i could see that, local level greens government seems like the one place it would probably be effective. Maybe they should just stop running for federal positions and focus more on local positions.
The primary reason they can't break in is because the system is effectively two party, and everybody else is dead in the water to begin with.
One party, as evidenced by the fact that both parties rule as conservatives.
as compared to socialist/commie parties, yeah.
but the chances of socialists and commies taking power of the US government and managing to refactor the entire government is so low it will probably self destruct prior to that, so we should probably work within the bounds of the government we have currently.
As far as moderate lefties go, we've got a really good line up this time around.
I hope they're as good as you think they are.
well in terms of policy they're pretty good, tim walz and kamala line up pretty well, and they both have plenty of experience in the fields that matter. In terms of platform they've got basically the perfect media machine under them.
I suppose we'll have to see what happens when they get in office, if they do, but it should be a pretty good run.