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Mozilla adds stupid AI stuff with horrible T&C (lemdro.id)
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PSA (?): just got this popup in Firefox when i was on an amazon product page. looked into it a bit because it seemed weird and it turns out if you click the big "yes, try it" button, you agree to mandatory binding arbitration with Fakespot and you waive your right to bring a class action lawsuit against them. this is awesome thank you so much mozilla very cool

https://queer.party/@m04/112872517189786676

So, Mozilla adds an AI review features for products you view using Firefox. Other than being very useless, it's T&C are as anti-consumer as it possibly can be. It's like mozilla saying directly "we don't care about your privacy".

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 months ago (1 children)

FakeSpot also only works on the biggest and most predatory platforms (Walmart and Amazon).

that also happen to be by far the most popular, and also where you are the mos likely to see fake reviews

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (2 children)

"If the privacy invasion and corporate trend chasing doesn't hurt your soul"?

Did you miss the privacy invasion where Mozilla now sells private data to advertising companies directly?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

they seem to be basically saying that they make most of their profit by selling your private data to advertisers, trend calculators etc etc

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

all the data that goes through the firefox integration is anonymised

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

We are talking about Mozilla FakeSpot, not Mozilla PPA...

I know, there's so many privacy issues right now that it's hard to keep track.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

i am talking about fakespot

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The letters "anon" don't appear anywhere in the privacy policy.

So where are you pulling this claim from, because it doesn't smell right...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Mozilla claims the service respects your privacy because they are using OHTTP (which does NOT provide anonymity)... The marketing speak implies anonymity heavily, but doesn't say it

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

That's not the privacy policy.

The FakeSpot privacy policy is right here. No mention of anonymization when they sell data to ad brokers.

Regarding OHTTP: It's a CDN proxy with a pinkie promise. I trust their partnership with Firefox as much as I trust them with Google: not much.

With OHTTP, [Google] Safe Browsing does not see your IP address, and your Safe Browsing checks are mixed amongst those sent by other Chrome users,” Google affirms

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

In OP's screenshot, you are only going to agree to Mozilla's privacy policy and FakeSpot's TOS. So the FakeSpot's privacy policy is not involved.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And if you had actually read the FakeSpot TOS:

Your contract with us includes these Terms of Use, along with any rules and policies posted on our website from time-to-time and our Fakespot Privacy Notice located at https://www.fakespot.com/privacy-notice

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

You are right. I think they should make it more clear.

In the FakeSpot privacy notice, Google Analytics, Social Media Platforms, Contact Info, and Identifiers are not collected by Firefox, among others. So it's fair to say the data collected is not linked to the user.

The browser.shopping.experience2023.ads.enabled flag is intriguing. So I took a look. It turns out that the recommendation is only based on the current page you request the review analysis.

In general, I believe that it is primarily ambiguous legal documents rather than a genuine invasion of privacy.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 months ago

I am aware its not the privacy policy, i have read through the privacy policy, however the fact that the info get proxied through and anonymised on fastly's servers counts for something

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

anonymization is not a silver bullet. Data gets deanonymized all the time. It's very easy to accidentally leak useful information