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[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

What's the definition of "all powerful"? Would an all-powerful being need to be able to draw a square without it being a rectangle? Or to build a house without walls?

If the answer is "no", then I'd argue that the left most arrow/conclusion is logically wrong/misplaced/invalid. Assuming that "free will" is not possible without "evil".

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Agreed.

Evil is also a subjective concept, the same action can be perceived as good or evil depending on the understood context.

When you allow action on the subjective experience of life aka free will, you also allow evil to emerge from those actions as those interaction collide with the subjective experience of others.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well sure. You could argue that evil is subjective. But even so we could just go with gods definition of "evil" things and use the 10 commandments as what he deems good or bad. In which case he created a world in which people will do the things he told them not to (same with the Apple) which makes him either not good or not all powerful.

Personally God becomes a lot more palettable when he is a non all powerful and non all knowing higher dimensional being that just created us and can't be fucked dealing with this problem he created. Like avoiding cleaning the dishes in the sink.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

I wouldn’t put too much credibility towards the commandments or any established religions for that matter.

The personification of god has always bothered me. The meme is a very effective argument against the all knowing super human god dogma with its cryptic masterplan but it falls flat when you personally relate god more to an intelligent-conscious force of nature.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

That's the thing, it seems too simplistic, though probably is a good start towards something, better understanding I suppose.

Like all planar squares must be rectangles, but curved square nonplanar washers exist... and those neither disprove nor prove the existence of a God (or Gods, or any spiritual beings at all)?:-P

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The devil as they say is in the details, like what exactly is evil, in order to go from mere wordplay to true philosophical understanding. imho at least.