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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, it's pretty much pointless to point out real widespread problems to the official communities.

It's populated by crowd of paid shills and dog pilers who will gladly blame user for any problem, refuse to admit the problem exist, contradict your words and just straight up lie using marketing double speak & sophistry

You can't make person to see, when she's paid not to see

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Unofficial Lemmy community for https://obsidian.md

It's not the official community, that'd be the forums and maybe the Discord, so I'm confused. Do you mean communities specifically focused on it are likely to have that kind of person too?

Also, the image you posted seems to defend Obsidian from criticism, so I was pretty surprised to get a reply from you talking about shills, about negative reception to criticism because the people in the conversation are paid actors.

Putting all my cards on the table, I am an Obsidian user who enjoys it. I saw this post in PKMS got lots of upvotes, and my motive here is Fediverse engagement, which is why I thought this would make a nice crosspost.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Also, the image you posted seems to defend Obsidian from criticism, so I was pretty surprised to get a reply from you talking about shills, about negative reception to criticism because the people in the conversation are paid actors.

The picture I posted, is an example how community leaders react to problems:

  1. they make you repeat yourself (imo they hope you'd get tired and drop asking for help)
  2. "it's not a big deal" aka "deny problem exists 🙈"
  3. "poor people problem" aka "victim blaming" 2.1 "nah, bro, it works for me" — "been using the software for ages, never had any problem"
  4. "everyone doing it" — whataboutism and comparing oneselves with the worst players

On the picture you can see 0 and 3, but not many people care enough to encounter all the responses. It's much easier just to give up than get any bit of helpful advice.

Past example thread of mine

Putting all my cards on the table, I am an Obsidian user who enjoys it. I saw this post in PKMS got lots of upvotes, and my motive here is Fediverse engagement, which is why I thought this would make a nice crosspost.

Cheers to you, mate. If you wanna discuss Obsidian problems in the open -- be my welcomest guest. However, I gotta warn you to brace yourself, you might encounter a lot of resistance and bigotry.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Hey, thanks for the clarification.