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Joe Biden has called on Congress to pass the George Floyd Justice in Policing Act, moments after shocking police video was released showing an Illinois officer fatally shooting Sonya Massey after she called police fearing a home intruder.

In his first public statement since dropping his bid for re-election, Biden said the shooting of Massey, a 36-year-old Black woman, by white Sangamon county sheriff’s deputy Sean Grayson, in her home in Springfield, after a dispute over a pot of boiling water, “reminds us that all too often Black Americans face fears for their safety in ways many of the rest of us do not”.

Biden, who is recovering from Covid at his home in Delaware, said Massey, “a beloved mother, friend, daughter and young Black woman … should be alive today”.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

What I can’t understand is why they entered the house after that interaction and the video I saw didn’t show.

To my knowledge, there was no reason or justification given. Grayson had turned off his body cam, and his partner had walked away to get the license plate of the car in the driveway. Grayson followed her into her home asking for ID. She seemed confused and scattered through the whole encounter. She might have been intoxicated or on medication. She might have had mental health problems. She may have even been using illegal drugs. But none of that is a crime if you're in your own home not bothering anyone. IMO, they were fishing for a reason to treat her as a suspect.

This video has a good breakdown with footage from both officers' body cams: https://youtu.be/7jP3FGj7syI

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Just watching it now. Heads up you linked to near the end of the video so for anyone else this is the start.

https://youtu.be/7jP3FGj7syI

Very upsetting viewing so far tbh so exercise caution on whether or not you're up for viewing.

Edit: Oh God this just gets worse and worse the more I watch. He had a tazer and chose his gun. :( That poor woman. Still watching in pieces as it's busy here....

Just finished. It's a good analysis of a terrible situation. Zero justification for killing that woman. Just a little kindness and it all could have been avoided. The killer was a giant dick from start to finish.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Fixed the link. Thanks for the heads up!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

No worries. Thanks for the link to the video. It was a good analysis, an unpleasant watch but I'm glad I saw it.

Also fuck that guy. Like really, really fuck that guy. Just a single ounce of empathy or kindness instead of frustration and anger and that woman would still be alive and her family wouldn't be grieving this.

But also I'm glad to see justice being done (so far).

I do feel sorry for his partner, who obviously early on knew the guy wasn't OK on that particular day, tried to smooth him out early on in the car but unfortunately wasn't able to. The whole thing is very sad.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

Oh yikes. Thanks for the extra context. I'll give that video you linked a watch this evening.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Good comment but I think doing 'illegal drugs' in your own home is still illegal.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Splitting hairs, but technically being a user or addict isn't illegal, it's possession or possession with intent to traffic, which are the crimes. Might vary by region.

In any case, not justification for murder

EDIT: pardon me, my reply keeps going to the wrong comment.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Fair. I should re-word. Yes, if they had evidence that she was actually using, that might be grounds for arrest. But they'd still need cause to enter her house and arrest her, and just suspecting that she's using because she's acting weird isn't sufficient. Here's my re-word: Just being high in your own home is not illegal.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Oh for sure, it shouldn't be illegal. I'm Australian, it's not actually illegal to use or be on drugs here. But obviously possession, manufacture, selling etc is illegal.

But I believe in most states in the US it is illegal to use/be under the influence of drugs? Someone chime in if I'm wrong