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May as well contribute my own 😜.
I'm an absolute sucker for exquisitely hardened distros. Hence, distros like Qubes OS and Kicksecure have rightfully caught my interest. However, the former's hardware requirements are too harsh on the devices I currently own. While the latter relies on backports for security updates; which I'm not a fan of. Thankfully, there is also secureblue.
Contrary to the others, secureblue is built on top of an 'immutable' and/or atomic base distro; namely Fedora Atomic. By which:
If security is your top priority, Qubes OS is the gold standard. However, secureblue is a decent (albeit inferior) alternative if you prefer current and/or 'immutable'/atomic distros.
What, you don't have 64 GB of RAM?
Jokes aside, the hardware reqs for Qubes are about on-par with Windows, so its not too bad.
Unfortunately my 8gb RAM (for which 2gb is dedicated for the iGPU) isn't enough. FWIW, this system could technically run Windows (11) without any troubles.
If it can run Windows, it can run Qubes.
Windows 11 minimally requires: Memory: 4 gigabytes (GB) or greater.
Qubes OS minimally requires: Memory: 6 GB RAM
I'm pretty sure Windows 11 would be unusable with 4GB of RAM
Got anything to back that up?
Qubes is great, but TAILS is def the gold standard for security
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't compartmentalization through virtualization the best solution we currently have?
Compartmentalization buys you disposable VMs. TAILS is amnesic, which is an improvement to this. Everything is lost between sessions
And more.
How? Please focus on the security merits.
If this is your reasoning to justify your earlier statement, please explain how this outdoes Qubes OS when it comes to security.
Btw, it seems you're conflating protection against forensics with a proper security model. In terms of security, TAILS does not provide anything remotely comparable to Qubes OS. Qubes OS is literally built differently. In case you enjoy tables.
the idea with qubes is that whatever you are doing with tails would just be done in a tails/tor qube (vm), which are/can be amnesic.