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[–] [email protected] 49 points 4 months ago (9 children)

A homeless man was shot because there were too many cops around.

14th and Vliet is near the secure zone of the Republican National Convention, but we have no reason to believe this incident is connected to events at the RNC.

TMJ4 spoke to two people, who said they witnessed the shooting, telling TMJ4 they saw a man walk across Vliet St., and said police followed him across the street, and shot the man in the back.

According to the witnesses, the man lived at a nearby homeless encampment with them and was just trying to cross the street when police shot him.

"More than 4,000 additional law enforcement officials are in Milwaukee for the RNC, and we've long feared how this heavy police presence could increase the risk of deadly police encounters, especially by out-of-state officers who don’t know and aren’t accountable to our community. We offer our condolences to the friends and family of the person killed."

[–] nulluser 15 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Some context that you left out...

MPD says several officers from Columbus Ohio observed a man, armed with a knife in each hand, and was engaged in an ‘altercation’ with another man they say was unarmed.

They say officers identified themselves as police officers and made several commands for the 43-year-old to drop the knife.

Police say the man refused and charged at the unarmed man with the knives. That’s when several officers discharged their firearms, killing the 43-year-old man.

Surveillance video appears to show the shooting in the middle of Vliet St.

TMJ4 acquired the bodycam video of the Columbus officers from MPD.

Two knives were recovered from the scene, according to MPD.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I counted five seconds between officers realizing a person had knives and that person dying. Multiple officers shouted over each other as they ran, no one giving clear instructions. The video doesn't show the man "charging" anywhere until the herd of cops charges at him. It is legal to open carry knives in Ohio.

[–] nulluser 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Which are all good points of discussion, but still paint a very different picture of what happened than your initial comment which made no mention of the knives or surveillance footage, instead focusing solely on supposed witnesses talking to reporters. It suggests that you're trying to drive a specific narrative rather than find the truth.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

You can see for yourself what happened, from two angles. Two witnesses saw what happened. A bunch of cops got scared and killed someone. Of course they are going to craft a narrative that makes them heroes. Their BS doesn't deserve any air time. Are eye witnesses less reliable than cops who are reliably liars, even when their asses aren't on the line?

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