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Sounds a lot like what Americans faced when Bush attacked Iraq. And just as justified (ie not unjustified, but perhaps taken to extremes).
Israelis: Your government has made your nation a pariah. You are the people best positioned to change that. Get those motherfuckers out of office.
They're trying... but for some inside perspective: the atmosphere feels somewhat oppressive. All mainstream media (except for this same Haaretz newspaper) get their info directly from the IDF, not considering other sources. And the right's decades-long campaign to convince the majority of the populace that peace is impossible seems to be working (it's a really complicated situation, made worse by people who actively want to make it worse). Compound that with the police becoming increasingly politicized (not that they weren't discriminatory at all before), and you get a recipe for just a mess. You would just as well be asking why Russians haven't got rid of Putin, Hungarians of Orbán, etc.
And despite that, there are protests. There are demonstrations. But dear Netanyahu doesn't want to call an election. One can only hope that his coalition collapses over internal issues (look up: conscription of ultra-orthodox Jews, a hostages-for-ceasefire deal), though that is unlikely.
And this is even more horrible when you consider that Netanyahu's policy of strengthening Hamas and weakening the PA/PLO, in order to lessen the chance of peace and, in his view, better Israel's security, has led to the country actually losing territory for the first time in decades! Israelis would literally be safer if the Oslo accords had continued, to actual peace. But good luck convincing them (even those who oppose the current government) of that after years of right-wing government which made it seem impossible.
I want to stress that I don't think your average Israeli citizen is an evil person. Not even your average IDF soldier (except those that actually call the shots). They believe that what they're doing is necessary, because of (justified) anger at the 7th of October events, as well as the incredible success of the right in general to move the political climate in its direction. Might this be stupid? It might, but there are consequences for falling out of line (especially in the army, as you might imagine). That hasn't stopped some admittedly brave people from doing it.
We've already seen that Netanyahu doesn't care about protests; those are perpetual in Israel. He will only resign if he is absolutely convinced that it is better for his personal well-being to do that (currently, he doesn't. He's on trial for corruption).
The people themselves migrated there and are direct actors inthe ethnic cleansing
That is simply incorrect. Most Israeli citizens were born in Israel
That is also true but look up "Aliya".
At least in the UK a lot of this was irritation that, yet again, our country was being drawn into a war that had nothing to do with us. It wasn't aimed at individuals (although certain people decided to take it like that), it was the American government that we were annoyed with.
Everyone knows being rude to Americans is bad for mental health, because they're the only group that will complain about it. For ages.
Why though? We're nice people we swear! Everyone says we're the nicest. Nice people just can't get ahead in this world without people being rude to them.
(luckily I have ADHD, so ages ends.....now.)
Many of them want to vote these bastards out, but they didn't succeed so fuck em all? Pretty intense absolutism ya got there.
nondescripthandle made an excellent comment along these same lines: https://alexandrite.app/lemmy.world/comment/11202637
You're putting words in my mouth. I never said fuck 'em. I said keep fighting.